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Michigan residents could be charged with a felony, face up to five years in prison and get a $10,000 fine for using the wrong pronouns under 'unconstitutional' new bill
Daily Mail ^ | 6/30/23 | James Gordon

Posted on 06/30/2023 2:52:45 AM PDT by Libloather

Michigan's House of Representatives has passed a hate speech bill, known as HB 4474, which criminalizes causing someone to feel threatened by words, including the misusing of their pronouns, with the possibility of a hefty fine or even jail time.

The bill introduces hate crime penalties for causing someone to 'feel terrorized, frightened, or threatened,' with 'sexual orientation' and 'gender identity or expression' included as protected classes.

Offenders could face up to five years in prison for such a felony offense or a $10,000 fine.

It is part of a continues effort by Democrats in the state to advance a pro-LGBTQ+ agenda in their first months in power.

The proposed legislation aims to replace the existing Ethnic Intimidation Act and extends protection against intimidation.

Critics argue that the bill poses a threat to First Amendment rights and lacks clarity in defining 'harassment', leaving it open to subjective interpretation.

The bill reads as follows: 'Intimidate' means a willful course of conduct involving repeated or continuing harassment of another individual that would cause a reasonable individual to feel terrorized, frightened, or threatened, and that actually causes the victim to feel terrorized, frightened, or threatened.'

If passed, penalties would be based on how the supposed victim and court 'feel' about a particular matter.

What constitutes as being deemed 'intimidation and harassment' would be up to the interpretation of the listener and a local prosecutor.

Critics argue that the legislation could infringe on free speech rights and undermine the principles of due process.

Michigan Democrats have made it a priority to further protect LGBTQ+ people since they took control of all levels of state government this year.

In March, lawmakers codified LGBTQ+ protections into the state's civil rights law, permanently outlawing discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity in the state.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: deathtogroomers; doxanddestroy; felony; freespeech; homofascism; homosexualagenda; marxisttyranny; michigan; neopronouns; pronouns; transgender; tyranny; unconstitutional
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To: motor_racer

Sorry I posted this to the wrong thread. It was intended for the discussion of Michigan’s new distracted driving law


21 posted on 06/30/2023 4:21:23 AM PDT by motor_racer ("We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends" - Barak Obama)
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To: metmom

Nor can they prove it actually happened ...


22 posted on 06/30/2023 4:24:28 AM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: motor_racer

No distractions, chicom batteries, and you will shaddap. Michigan is looking better and better these days.


23 posted on 06/30/2023 4:30:04 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Libloather

The chemical precursors of the hormones probably are made in China.

China and India might be persuaded to stop the export of these precursors and hormones.

These countries will not want American perversions disrupting their societies.


24 posted on 06/30/2023 4:33:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: bankwalker

“Nor can they prove it actually happened ...”

E. Jean Carroll vs. Donald J. Trump


25 posted on 06/30/2023 4:34:43 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Libloather

“HOUSE BILL NO. 4474. April 26, 2023, Introduced by Reps. Arbit, Puri, Grant, MacDonell”

from Google


26 posted on 06/30/2023 4:37:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Libloather

We no longer have the Constitution anymore.


27 posted on 06/30/2023 4:38:22 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Islander7

Hopefully they can get a judge to stop this from taking effect until it would go to SCOTUS. Well as long as someone files suit to take it there.


28 posted on 06/30/2023 4:41:06 AM PDT by dforest
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To: motor_racer

huh?


29 posted on 06/30/2023 4:43:31 AM PDT by dforest
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To: motor_racer

Hah, I have done that a few times myself.


30 posted on 06/30/2023 4:44:48 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Libloather

Does anyone here still believe America exists? We have to fight to get it back


31 posted on 06/30/2023 4:46:01 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Libloather

So as the left becomes more extreme and violent, anything we say will also result in prosecution. It’s absurd that law involves ‘feelings’ that can’t be substantiated.

I feel threatened and harassed by those that drafted this, can I have them arrested?


32 posted on 06/30/2023 4:55:23 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Libloather

“that would cause a reasonable individual to feel...”

Well that rules out applying this law based on the feelings of trannies. They are not reasonable.


33 posted on 06/30/2023 5:29:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Libloather
Opposition lawmakers should pass legislation to partition prisons off just for pronoun violators so the stay won’t be so bad.


34 posted on 06/30/2023 5:37:18 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Libloather

The only way to fight such an outrageous law is for everyone to break it all the time. Excuse me sir, to women, no ma’am to men, and so on in all contexts everywhere. Break the system.


35 posted on 06/30/2023 5:38:55 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Libloather

Sure glad I don’t live anywhere near Michigan. Passed thru there once a long time ago. Little did I know my brief visit would last a lifetime.


36 posted on 06/30/2023 5:42:50 AM PDT by upchuck (LEGO store reopens after shutdown. Folks lined up for blocks.)
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To: hoosierham
...the existing Ethnic Intimidation Act...

WHAT?!?!

Looks like the camel has his nose in the tent as it is sliding down a slippery slope.

37 posted on 06/30/2023 5:45:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Libloather

A pox and a curse on every last cop who enforces this insult to freedom and liberty!


38 posted on 06/30/2023 5:47:01 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Libloather

Best practice when dealing with these people is... don’t.. any more than you absolutely must. Don’t even use pronouns.. just use that person’s name in all references. It’ll sound annoying, but it’ll get the point across.


39 posted on 06/30/2023 5:47:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: Libloather
...causing someone to 'feel terrorized, frightened, or threatened,'

You CHOOSE how you react to something.

40 posted on 06/30/2023 5:47:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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