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How the Flu "disappeared" during the Covid era
The Dossier ^ | JUN 23, 2023 | JORDAN SCHACHTEL

Posted on 06/28/2023 4:22:02 PM PDT by george76

The Flu did not disappear, it was simply rebranded as Covid. With further commentary from the longtime lead scientist of the CDC's molecular diagnostic laboratory.

One of the biggest mysteries of “the pandemic” involves the supposed disappearance of the flu. Did the flu really disappear during the covid hysteria era, or is something else afoot?

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Now, during the confusion and panic of the last few years, there have been lots of explanations advanced about the supposed disappearance of the flu. The lockdowners and their credentialed institutions often claimed that masked worked (lol) to stop the flu, despite not working for covid. Others claimed that covid had some kind of viral dominance effect that defeated influenza strains.

But neither explanation really solves the “where did the flu go” mystery.

The evidence seems to point to two main reasons for the flu’s disappearance: the physical disappearance of flu testing kits and a misunderstanding of what the flu actually means.

The flu tests were not physically available in healthcare systems..

The Dossier surveyed several individuals and organizations with access to hospital system records and supply chain management, and we pooled together lots of anecdotal information to paint a greater picture of what happened.

We found that, at least in the United States, there was virtually no access to flu testing during the covid hysteria years, particularly from 2020 to 2021. Virtually all testing manufacturers pivoted to covid testing, leaving the influenza kits behind. According to Pharma and Government Health, Covid was a much bigger priority, both from a healthcare perspective and a business perspective, so the flu industry was no longer lucrative and kicked to the curb.

The second reason, however, is even more important.

The flu is not understood in its proper context..

Prior to the establishment of the covid testing industrial complex (which brought in well over $100 billion a year at its peak), flu was almost always diagnosed by symptoms, not by a swab test. And again, covid symptoms are virtually identical to flu symptoms. In the vast majority of cases, what is “the flu” is traditionally understood not as a viral influenza diagnosis but a general diagnosis of countless potential symptoms categorized in a broad category as “flu.” Very few doctor-diagnosed “flu” cases actually come from influenza strains. This is why it is the perfect rationale to understand covid as the flu but with scarier branding. Both flu and covid share the same symptoms, so a potential flu case/illness/death instead was generally diagnosed as a covid case/illness/death.

But enough from your humble correspondent. Let’s read a more detailed response from someone who knows this issue very well.

I also posed this question to Dr Norman Pieniazek (follow him on Twitter), a renowned molecular biologist who worked at the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) as the head of its molecular diagnostic laboratory for 24 years. Dr Pieniazek is an expert in PCR testing diagnostics and has a fascinating perspective on the shoddy science behind “the pandemic.”

Here’s his reply to my question:

From Dr. Norman J. Pieniazek:

Did the flu disappear during the COVID-19 pandemic?

I will try to answer this question; however, first, I must explain the terms common cold and flu (influenza).

Do you know that over 200 viruses cause colds and that people in the United States suffer from an estimated 1 billion colds yearly (1)?

Nonetheless, can we clearly say who suffers from the common cold and the flu?

What about PCR, the technique used to monitor the cases of COVID-19?

Unfortunately, PCR was found to be impractical for the diagnosis of infections of the respiratory tract for at least two reasons.

The first problem is the diagnostic sample.

Mucus samples, taken from deep nostrils (nasal swab), throat (oropharyngeal swab), and nasopharynx (nasopharyngeal swab), in essence, test the human air filter. The nasal passages have ridges that cause the air to swirl, similar to the Dyson vacuum cleaner principle. As the nasal passages and the whole respiratory tract are lined with mucus, it traps viruses, bacteria, pollen, fungal spores, and dust. This layer with trapped particles is moved by ciliated cells out of the airways. When the mucus is tested with PCR, detecting a part of a virus in the air filter doesn’t mean that this virus caused the infection. This problem with swabs has been known for a long time. The consensus is that broncho-alveolar lavage (BAL) is the most appropriate specimen for detecting respiratory tract viral infections. Unfortunately, collecting the BAL sample is complex and may not be approved by the patient.

The second problem was signaled above.

With more than 200 possible infection causes (etiology), testing for all suspects is not feasible. While in a scientific study, no stone would be left unturned to diagnose patients enrolled in a project, surveillance cannot be done this way.

CDC has developed a sentinel system for monitoring colds in the US population. This system monitors visits for respiratory illnesses, including fever, cough, or sore throat. Such visits are classified as Influenza-Like Illnesses (ILI). Please note that this designation doesn’t imply laboratory-confirmed influenza and captures patient visits due to all respiratory pathogens that cause similar symptoms. In addition to this system, CDC collects data on confirmed influenza cases; however, only about 1% of samples tested are usually positive. The take-home message is that no one knows how many flu cases are in the US annually. The reported number of ILI may be only the tip of the iceberg.

With the arrival of the Wuhan virus in January 2020, all lessons of prior seasons were forgotten.

People were forced to be tested even when they showed no symptoms. Despite ample evidence to the contrary, PCR done from swabs was suddenly advertised as the gold standard for diagnosis of infections of the respiratory system. Consider another important fact. In a carefully conducted study of hospitalized pneumonia patients diagnosed on classical X-Ray or CAT scans, the cause of the infection (etiology) could not be established in 62% of cases. How is it possible that during the pandemic in the US, there were 107,201,630 COVID infections and 1,166,899 COVID deaths as of today? Where are infections with other viruses? Where are conditions of unknown etiology?

The answer is straightforward. The results of PCR testing just for one virus are meaningless. This scam should be obvious to anyone versed in diagnosing respiratory infections.


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KEYWORDS: antivaxhysteria; cdc; covid; flu; jordanschachtel; schachtel
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1 posted on 06/28/2023 4:22:02 PM PDT by george76
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To: SecAmndmt; datura; Fractal Trader; bagster; grey_whiskers; metmom; Jane Long; tatown; ...

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2 posted on 06/28/2023 4:23:30 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: george76

3 posted on 06/28/2023 4:26:38 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: george76

The WuFlu was more definitely more contagious than the seasonal flu — it was designed to be that way. If so, it’s not unexpected that people would contact the Wu more than the flu. And with isolation, there’d be less contact.

Nevertheless, I suspect the flu never went away, just that people who tested positive for the Wu also had the flu, or vice-versa. I got the Wu, and it was different from any flu I’d ever had with bizarre skin rashes. Other than the rash, it was milder than prior flus I’d had, although I rarely get them.


4 posted on 06/28/2023 4:29:01 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: george76

The whole thing was a fraud. The virus. The vaccine. The lockdown. Fraud. If not 100% fraud, then close enough for the rest of it not to matter.

And they will do it again. And probably get away with it.


5 posted on 06/28/2023 4:35:28 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not a government. It's a criminal enterprise. Fear it, but do not respect it.)
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To: george76

And heart attacks, car accident deaths, etc.


6 posted on 06/28/2023 4:36:34 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: george76
Many cases of flu, cold, pneumonia, hangnails and random deaths counted at Covid.

7 posted on 06/28/2023 4:36:53 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: nicollo

Covid is a Sars 2 virus. More like the cold.


8 posted on 06/28/2023 4:37:42 PM PDT by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: ransomnote

Bump


9 posted on 06/28/2023 4:39:21 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ransomnote

Trust the “science”


10 posted on 06/28/2023 4:40:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: george76

Its the flu, bro.


11 posted on 06/28/2023 4:40:34 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Once again, Bannon would have sniffed Faucci out.


12 posted on 06/28/2023 4:41:14 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! there is no coexistence wi)
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To: ClearCase_guy

(The whole thing was a fraud. The virus. The vaccine. The lockdown. Fraud. If not 100% fraud)

A precursor to the Mark of the anti-Christ Beast

An excellent dry run

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13 posted on 06/28/2023 4:41:45 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: george76; ClearCase_guy

Sounds like another conspiracy theory debunked. That and the medical industry folding like a cheap suit under illegal mandates and taking their eyes off the gold ring and letting the government own their asses.

Are there any news outlets that can say anything that we haven’t already disproven and shown to deserve ridiculed?


14 posted on 06/28/2023 4:47:22 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: Fledermaus

“Covid is a Sars 2 virus. More like the cold.”

The “cold” can be from a number viruses. Some coronaviruses, some not. Basically if it is not serious and not tested it is a “cold”.


15 posted on 06/28/2023 4:54:59 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: george76

Just for the record.. there never is a second strain of flu circulating symptomatically at the same time. I have been running flu tests for decades. Flu A and flu B positive tests are separate by a season. In fact, your u can look up any test kit that tests for A and B and it will state dual positive tests are invalid or suspect. Immunological chemicals that rise in natural defense are the most likely reason A and B do not run together. Most of the first covid tests that also have flu A and B as the same thing.


16 posted on 06/28/2023 4:55:24 PM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: All

I gave it thought. I found the answer. I no longer needed to waste time on it.

Excess Deaths tell the tale. If Covid had been merely flu, then there would have been no Excess Deaths because the flu death count would have been what it always was, regardless of name.

There were a million+ Excess Deaths.

QED.


17 posted on 06/28/2023 4:55:40 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

No one believes what vaxxers say, except for the vaxxers.


18 posted on 06/28/2023 5:04:35 PM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: Owen
If Covid had been merely flu, then there would have been no Excess Deaths because the flu death count would have been what it always was, regardless of name.

Not a valid response.

Because flu used to be treated. You know you go to the doctor and they give you inhalers and pills and syrups. If you are a lung patient you get treated even faster. Except that did not happen during COVID time. They tested you, gave you Tylenol (a drug that kills thousands every year and not tested for treating WuFlu) and sent you home to get really bad.

Some of the doctors on FR even admitted that this was what was happening. No treatment. None. Not even a treatment of symptoms.

So if you want to know what a flu season would look like without people being treated, that is what you got.

So once again your attempt to push propaganda fails and you are once more rated FFFF (Falsi Fabulous Fascist Fluffer)

19 posted on 06/28/2023 5:10:23 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: george76

If one had access to a large database one could easily compare day by day, month by month the similarity and difference in the statistical pattern.

One could compare those who were 100% in the house with those who went to those Pentecostal churches and Mosques in defiance of closing. One could compare those who had to work essential services with those who stayed home.

One statistic jumps out immediately: MRSA, SEPSIS, HAI.


20 posted on 06/28/2023 5:11:46 PM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h g)
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