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There Is No Choice Left: Russia Will Have To Launch A Nuclear Strike On Europe
RIA Novosti Russia ^ | 6/25/2023 | Sergey Karaganov

Posted on 06/25/2023 11:06:35 PM PDT by Nextrush

For seventy-five years of mutual deterrence, nuclear weapons have saved the world, and people just got used to it. Now we see with our own eyes that nuclear weapons no longer stop, because the unthinkable is happening: the West has unleashed a big war in the underbelly of a great nucler power...

At some point, we also calmed down, went in line with Western theories and recklessly raised the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons, which the West is now using for a reason. There all the time, semi-officials emphasize: no, the Russians will never use nuclear weapons. They want us not to even raise this question under any circumstances, as if clearing the way for them for an endless war in Ukraine. But given that their military-industrial potential is higher than ours, they just want to wear us out...

I want to believe that our opponents will come to their senses. Because if not, then the military-political leadership of Russia will face a terrible moral choice and the need to make a difficult decision. But I believe that our president must at some point project his determination to use nuclear weapons...

the use of nuclear weapons is a monstrous step, it should be avoided if possible. But, as the vector of the West, its elites and society, their movement towards anti-human and post-human values shows, all this indicates and objective approach to a big thermonuclear war. We must interrupt this process and thus save the world- if possible, of course, avoiding super-tough actions...

(Excerpt) Read more at ria.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: bidenswar; bogusnonsense; canuckconservative; china; dramaqueenbrigade; emptythreats; neocons4war; neoconsarefools; nuclearweapons; nukerussia; omgomgomg; putinsdramaqueens; russia; russiadelendaest; sanctionseffective; sergeykaraganov; ukrainewar
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To: Cronos

Excellent link. Supports most of what we’ve been talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68bD8MHnJFk

Instability in Russia = stability in Europe


61 posted on 06/26/2023 3:23:56 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Cronos; Nextrush

62 posted on 06/26/2023 3:52:39 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Nextrush

A number of people in the meme world are saying that Putin/Wagner have stolen a march on Ukraine and the Wagner troops are now in Belarus and around 100K from Kiev.


63 posted on 06/26/2023 3:54:06 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: Jayster
“nucler” ??

That's how Jimmy Carter pronounced it.

64 posted on 06/26/2023 3:55:02 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Life without liberty is like a body without spirit." - Kahlil Gibran)
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To: Nextrush

The West wants globalism but more specifically, global “democracy”. We all love that word these days don’t we, especially when paired with “our”? “Our democracy” is a freak show of perverts, liars, cheats, violent nutjobs and thieves. Can’t blame this guy for not wanting American style ‘democracy’ in Russia, yet here’s one of our freaks laying out that exact goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI4QDm5G-pE&t=420s

Damon Wilson - worked for or with NATO for years, National Security Council, Atlantic Council and now runs the NED. NED basically does out in the open what the CIA used to do in secret, regime change. He’s been all about Eastern Europe and expanding NATO. He handled US policy in regards to Ukraine for years, including the Orange Revolution years. In the above video, he flat out states the end goal is a “democratic Russia”. Wilson lives in DC with his husband.

The globalists are in a hurry to get this New World Order thing done because the tech is there to subjugate every single person on the globe. Great Reset. Build Back Better. Lear jets and fine dining for us, bug protein & e-bikes for you. and a cell phone as required by law soon. China is the prototype for a global government.


65 posted on 06/26/2023 3:55:18 AM PDT by Pollard ( >>> The Great Rest is already underway! <<<)
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To: Nextrush; Fred Nerks

Well, give her hell Russia, the benfit will be two glowing holes in the ground where both Moscow and Washington DC used to be, not a bad thing at all the way Washington is, we will finally be rid of the ape shit lefties who caused all of this.


66 posted on 06/26/2023 3:56:02 AM PDT by Candor7 ( ( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: Nextrush

The west has launched a war

If it were not so terrifying their statements would be laughable

So the west launched a war against hitler

Russians have a unique mindset


67 posted on 06/26/2023 4:15:05 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: Nextrush

Seems like a great argument that Putin needs to go too and Russia defeated and de-fanged once and for all.


68 posted on 06/26/2023 4:17:25 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Nextrush

Putin and the Russians have been meddling in foreign affairs forever, Hungary, Chechnya, Georgia, Moldavia, Syria… the idea that this is a western only activity is almost laughable if not so tragic

Yes for the sake of peace give Putin and by extension xi everything they want
“ peace in our time” moment /s


69 posted on 06/26/2023 4:17:51 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: Nextrush

I would be OK with a few well placed suitcase nukes being detonated in various areas of the world that are basically doorways to hell, for instance the New York Times building or the Kensington district in Philadelphia.

Also a couple of them detonated around Satanic churches like the Pentagram or CIA and FBI enclosures. /spit


70 posted on 06/26/2023 4:19:54 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Nextrush
Just provoked Russia with decades of activity up to and including the 2014 coup in Ukraine.


71 posted on 06/26/2023 4:20:03 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: COBOL2Java

You sure it wasn’t Bush jr?
Carter was on a nuclear sub.


72 posted on 06/26/2023 4:22:34 AM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Robert357

There is a big difference between a limited use of multi kiloton nuclear weapons and an all out strategic weapons exchange involving thousands of megaton-class warheads.

The former is obviously survivable, since Nagasaki and Hiroshima have been rebuilt, and since we survived atmospheric testing during the ‘50s.

A strategic exchange does risk a nuclear winter due to the amount of smoke and ash thrown into the atmosphere. It would be equivalent to a major volcano, which have caused widespread crop failure for multiple years afterwards.

There are also some special cases, such as targeting a nuclear power reactor and adjacent cooling ponds with a megaton class weapon in order to release the accumulated radioisotopes.


73 posted on 06/26/2023 4:24:36 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Nextrush

Never happen over Ukraine but I agree probably 80% of the wests population should be wiped out and I agree with Putin on his LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ stance and the insanity on gender bull💩.


74 posted on 06/26/2023 4:25:27 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Robert357

” LD 50 30”

Well, what will they develop for nomenclature of the deaths and crippling due to the mRNA Jab?

And those at the top around Fauci and his cohorts knew from the beginning about the “side effects”.

They have been playing with this “strain” of virus for over 20 years. Was a division manager for 7 of that.

I took him for his last visit to the plant on Oct 30, 2009. He died in early December 2009.

I don’t know what nuke lab you decontaminated but my father in law worked at the plant for 40 years.


75 posted on 06/26/2023 4:29:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: metmom

It is interesting how many”Putin had no choice” folks there are out there. Granted many are paid trolls, but there is a genuine large population who believe this. Once this is your position then anything is reasonable

Did hitler have to invade Poland? Did Stalin have to support this? Of course not but that is where the dreams, goals and desires of autocrats come into play

Imagine if hitler had stuck to his territorial gains and not started ww2, Germany would have been even more powerful against a weak Europe. Japan launched a war for power and resources and after losing became more powerful through economics
Russia was not in a bad place prior to 2022 invasion and 2014 invasion. Their biggest problems were not Ukrainian nazis or globalhomos… it was demographics and corruption at all levels. I would suggest that the biggest reason for the invasion failure to reach putins goals was corruption and lying.

Had russian stuck to its borders and promoted its economy with all its vast resources, made course corrections in regard to corruption then Russia could have been very prosperous.
Instead putin and his dreams of expansion, coupled with very bad intel gives us what we have now


76 posted on 06/26/2023 4:30:46 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: GranTorino
You sure it wasn’t Bush jr?
Carter was on a nuclear sub.

It was Carter - although Bush Jr isn't far behind. With Jimmy I think it was his Georgia accent.

77 posted on 06/26/2023 4:44:32 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Life without liberty is like a body without spirit." - Kahlil Gibran)
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To: Nextrush

“the West has unleashed a big war” No Russia unleashed another war of imperialism.


78 posted on 06/26/2023 5:00:27 AM PDT by pas
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To: Nifster

“ I love how the gig is now the fault of the west. Sure thing we attacked the Ukraine”

Biden did everything in his power to provoke Putin. Putin drew a line he didn’t want crossed, Ukraine in NATO, and Biden crossed it.


79 posted on 06/26/2023 5:04:18 AM PDT by Gary from Dayton (Scary unvaccinated American )
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To: ExGeeEye

Don’t leave out ‘On the Beach’!


80 posted on 06/26/2023 5:04:27 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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