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Russia is still on the verge of disintegration, even if Prigozhin turned his men back
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | June 24th, 2023 | Daniel Hannan

Posted on 06/24/2023 7:39:51 PM PDT by Mariner

This is the beginning of the end for Vladimir Putin regardless of Yevgeny Prigozhin’s decision to turn around last night. That may seem an odd thing to say. But Putin’s power rests on projection, on propaganda, on the image of invincibility. Now, all of a sudden, the curtain has been snatched back, revealing the Wizard of Oz as a small, mediocre, frightened man.

From the outside, dictatorships can look monolithic. One of the reasons that Western Kremlinologists failed to predict the end of the Soviet Union was that they knew little of the necessarily secret rivalries within it. None of them foresaw that the chief instrument in the dissolution of the USSR would be Boris Yeltsin’s Russian Federation.

Today, the same Russian Federation appears united. Putin’s approval ratings hover around 80 per cent, and his most vocal opponents are in exile or in prison. There are no meaningful opposition parties or critical newspapers. People rally to their leaders during war, and the effect of sanctions has been to strengthen Putin’s control over the economy.

Look closer, though, and that unity begins to look provisional. The siloviki, the strongmen around Putin, sense his vulnerability, and are making alliances in preparation for the transition. The generals and admirals who hold the other half of the nuclear codes could still be manoeuvring. Perhaps nine of Russia’s regions and republics could be ready to call independence referendums, having had enough of a Muscovite clique which seizes their natural resources, conscripts their young men, and offers them nothing in return.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: danielhannan; russia; smellegraph
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A boatload of conjecture based on wishful thinking alone.

No facts or data provided, no quotes.

But the fact is Putin is more powerful than ever before. He stared down an armed rebellion...and the entire Russia state stood with him.

Not a single crack in the wall. No generals. No governors. No oligarchs. NOBODY BUT PRIGO challenged the state, and Putin.

Remarkable unity. All aligned behind Putin.

1 posted on 06/24/2023 7:39:51 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

I still remember last spring, when our intel agencies said he had terminal cancer and only a handful of months to live. It seems they missed the mark yet again.


2 posted on 06/24/2023 7:43:35 PM PDT by GaltMeister (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.)
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To: Mariner

The US is far more likely to collapse before Russia ever does….just look around the US….we can’t even define what a woman is…..


3 posted on 06/24/2023 7:44:33 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Mariner

Yep, Putin has come out stronger now after the mercenary rebel leader high tailed to Belarus.


4 posted on 06/24/2023 7:45:37 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like DeSantis are there to build wealth, Trump is there to serve & lose wealth)
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To: GaltMeister

Our intelligence agencies have a long list of failures, starting with no clue about India executing nuclear weapons test in mid 1970’s.


5 posted on 06/24/2023 7:47:35 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like DeSantis are there to build wealth, Trump is there to serve & lose wealth)
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To: Mariner

“He stared down an armed rebellion.”

And pardoned all involved before sundown.


6 posted on 06/24/2023 7:49:02 PM PDT by Round Earther
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“Russia is still on the verge of disintegration”

Russians are tough - they live year after year in one of the harshest climates on Earth.

They endure - Russia will endure.


7 posted on 06/24/2023 7:49:22 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: Mariner

Compared to Bidet / Harris and their gang of idiots, even a fleeing moderate Puto still looks very strong.

Impeachment can’t come soon enough.


8 posted on 06/24/2023 7:50:34 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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“Russia is still on the verge of disintegration”

Yeah sure it is. More BS from the deluded children at Yahoo.


9 posted on 06/24/2023 7:51:27 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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“Russia is still on the verge of disintegration”

Yeah sure it is. More BS from the deluded children at Yahoo.


10 posted on 06/24/2023 7:51:29 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Mariner

“Russia is still on the verge of disintegration”

Yeah sure it is. More BS from the deluded children at Yahoo.


11 posted on 06/24/2023 7:51:30 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Round Earther

Prigo and his top lieutenants just are not dead...yet.

They will be, and it will be at the hands of Russian State assassins.

Because in addition to other things, Putin is a murderous executive first.


12 posted on 06/24/2023 7:52:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Every piece about Russia published in one of the British rags over the past year has read like it came straight from Mi6’s propaganda hacks.


13 posted on 06/24/2023 7:53:06 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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Like we are supposed to believe anything a British Neoconservative says about a failed MI6 engineered insurgency.


14 posted on 06/24/2023 7:54:47 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Mariner

Both the quoted story, and OP’s comments thereon, tell me more about them than about what will happen in Russia.

Russia, to quote a famous conservative, is a “riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.”


15 posted on 06/24/2023 7:55:48 PM PDT by TheConservator (Beware the tyranny of the woke mob. There has never been a greater threat to liberty.)
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To: Mariner

I agree with you.


16 posted on 06/24/2023 7:55:58 PM PDT by devere
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These people are acting like a 12-year-old boy who got hold of their dad’s Playboy magazine.


17 posted on 06/24/2023 7:58:08 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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The fact is the Russian state was digging defensive trenches around Moscow today. When the last time that happened? The Tin Pot Tsar has no clothes. Clearly, he’s not going to defeat “globohomo” for us. Sorry.


18 posted on 06/24/2023 7:58:57 PM PDT by lodi90
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“Russia, to quote a famous conservative, is a “riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.”

Back to school.

That quote by Churchill referred specifically to the Soviet Union.

Which tells us a little about you.


19 posted on 06/24/2023 7:59:47 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I haven’t seen anyone saying this, but it feels to me like the trap that was laid in Turkey when the dictator organized a coup sting to out all those in the military who wanted to overthrow him—or what our DS did to sting MAGA people on J6.


20 posted on 06/24/2023 8:01:14 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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