Posted on 06/23/2023 12:34:45 AM PDT by Cronos
The American dream promises upward mobility.
But a child born in poverty in America is more likely to face poverty in adulthood than in many Western countries.
The American Dream might look a little different for everyone. But at its heart, it promises upward mobility, the opportunity to attain success no matter what situation you might be born into.
Recent research shows that's more likely to happen in Denmark, Germany, Australia, and the UK.
In a recent paper titled The Intergenerational Persistence of Poverty in High-Income Countries, https://osf.io/tb3qz academics at Bocconi University and Rockwool Foundation and Stockholm University explored how poverty persists across generations in multiple countries.
Their finding: "Intergenerational poverty in the U.S. is four times stronger than in Denmark and Germany, and twice as strong as in Australia and the UK."
.. researchers found this difference between countries has little to do with differences in quality of education, nor is it based on racial discrimination or location, with the persistence of poverty in the US high across racial and geographic lines.
Instead, the researchers find that the persistence of poverty is strongly connected to tax rates and what they call transfer insurance effects, which can be considered as akin to a social safety net.
"The U.S. is the archetype of a liberal and residualist welfare state, featuring stratified access to higher education and employment, strong earnings returns to higher education, and a comparatively weak welfare state to insure against risks in adulthood," the researchers said.
Even more meaningful in the US is what the researchers call a "residual poverty penalty," or the scars that a childhood in poverty can leave on an individual. The researchers found that "exposure to childhood poverty is particularly severe in the US," citing eg less access to quality healthcare among low-income US residents.
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.in ...
I’d be curious to compare against those that immigrated here and became USA citizens.
https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2020/10/PE20_N068_12411.html
The Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) reports that 9,782 (3.6%) of the 270,294 Germans who left the country in 2019 moved to the United States. =
The only countries chosen by more Germans were Switzerland (16,340) and Austria (11,904).
and for Denmark
In 2022, the most common destination for people emigrating from Denmark was the United States. nearly 4,700 people emigrated to the U.S., followed by the Scandinavian neighbor Norway and southern neighbor Germany. Denmark only borders Germany, except for a bridge via the Ă–resund strait to Sweden. Moreover, 9,500 of the people emigrating from Denmark in 2022 did not state their destination country.
So about 10% of emigrants from Denmark chose the USA
And about 6,800 Ozzies migrate to the USA each year
No guns...you wait a year for heart surgery...bananas are $75 a pound...gasoline is $8 a gallon....tax rates are around 50% (if you’re lucky)...moslems roam the streets of every major city...
“You wait a year for heart surgery”
Where? That’s not the case in Germany nor Denmark nor Australia.
“Gasoline is $8 a gallon:
Grrmany $5.57
Denmark $5.93
Australia $4.33
Where did you get $8/ gallon from?
“:bananas are $75 a pound:
Grrmany $0.85
Denmark $1.47
Australia $1.27
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=118
Where did you get $75/pound from?
“Tax rates are around 50% if you are lucky”
This one you are close. Mote that below are the highest tax rates
Grrmany 46%
Denmark 56%
Australia 45%
https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/personal-income-tax-rate
I have friends in many of those countries.
They have more freedom in some ways than we do.
Yesterday I traveled 200 miles away into parts of two adjacent states. The difference just one county away is clearly visible. Prosperity and enterprise are evident not 35 miles away and improving the further you go. What could it be?
Answer: While the adjacent county has a larger American Indian population it does not also have the white trash we have. The combination of these, Indians on every kind of dole you can imagine and white trash is fatal. When people don’t have to work they won’t. There are generations of people in this country who have not had to work and just won’t. What is more, it has become a way of life they accept and pass on to the next generation.
The attitude shows up everywhere including their dwellings and every space they use, it reeks of don’t care. The highways and byways here are littered with trash. You can rake it into piles and walk without ever touching the ground around one Indian community here. Just one county away, not so much. Pretty clean actually. The whole area here looks disheveled, run down, used up, scraggly, just downright trashy.
Programs in this country are for total dependency or nothing. We have no provisions for weaning off, only cut off lines. Faced with the decision to live off the land by your own hard work or live off of the dole for a few pennies more what do we expect people will do? Don’t even suggest that the dole is not a way of life. They know how to game the system to pay them for life with only a few interruptions. it may not be a good life and they complain constantly but they like it much better than working for a few pennies more.
This area will never get any better than it is now. There is not nearly enough enterprise to overcome the mass of people who do nothing and live off of the efforts of others. They are useless drones. In a beehive they would be killed. We need to take lessons from bees.
It is disgusting and depressing.
And again, we mostly agree. Please see my post below if interested in another but similar view. It is probably just another case of preaching to the converted as we so often do.
#29
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4162873/posts?page=29#29
We are far too culturally diverse and have a failing center of commonality. This will be what leads to anarchy. Everyone satisfied but nobody satisfied. We have also lost the rule-of-law that is necessary for not just an orderly society but a satisfied and safe one.
I am simply dumbfounded that the majority do not understand that prosperity can become a zero sum game and that ours has. When the freeloaders outnumber the producers there will be less for the producers no matter how much they work. It seems that to see that would be an innate survival instinct but it is not.
Old white guys like us are the majority group who are most affected compared to our version of normal and least able to do something. We are also the majority who see where the trail winds up from our experience. Only in time can you learn to link up all the dots and puzzle pieces of the mess of life and then it is over.
As for China, I don’t see depopulation as that much of a problem so long as you end up with the most productive. The majority of China are just eeking out a living for themselves. The population is so vast that just a portion of them look like a huge productive and suitably prosperous class. It is only these relatively few you see in all the photos enjoying the amazing developments executed there in the last few decades.
I really enjoyed living in Germany until Merkel brought in her s hole pets. But what this article really skips around is a certain culture and races that don’t want to improve their lot in life. They embrace welfare. This isn’t a common trait in ethnic white Europeans. There are outliers like the Gypsies or Travellers but the welfare queens in Europe are imports from Africa and the Middle East who love the s hole lifestyle as they do here.
This really isn't all that true.
The governments of two Australian states went this way - the socialist government in Victoria (where I live) put its capital of Melbourne under very long term lockdowns, and the socialist government of Western Australia sealed their borders from the rest of the country, but the rest of the country didn't go to anywhere near these extremes. Unfortunately, for various reasons some people - including some people here on Freerepublic - decided to depict the actions of the most left-wing Australian states as if they were the norm in Australia, rather than the exception. It's like judging all of America by what happens in California.
Luckily,US Senator Rand Paul (a physician) was able to expose Fauci for what he was...and is: a democrat Party hack. https://vault.fbi.gov/
I can't speak for Europe, but I honestly wonder how many of those 'reports' in the US about Australia were ultimately the result of Chinese propaganda efforts. China is doing everything it can to split Australia and the US as allies, and spreading a narrative in the United States that Australia has lost its way is in their interests.
A couple of states in Australia, as I've said, embraced an approaches to COVID that were extremist - the two most left wing states in the country. The other parts of the country did not. Nor did the Federal government, except arguably on some aspects of vaccination, but even there that happened because of the influence of those two extremist states. But American media from everything I could see, seem to be presenting those two states as the norm in Australia, rather than as the exceptions.
OTOH,I,like many Americans,don't understand the details of the relationship that your states have with your Federal government. As you probably know some of our left wing states routinely pass gun laws which are clearly unconstitutional...knowing that it would take years for the Federal courts to overturn them.Perhaps the same is true Down Under...your states showing contempt for the national Constitution in various ways.
I'm sure it wouldn't surprise you to learn that the typical American doesn't know much about Australia apart from Crocodile Dundee. Hell,we don't even know much about Canada! There are many videos showing Americans being arrested in Canada for firearms and you hear them say "but I have a license to carry in Texas".
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