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Trump Says ‘Secret’ Document He Described on Tape Referred to News Clippings
Epoch Times ^ | 6/20/23 | Caden Pearson

Posted on 06/20/2023 4:26:32 AM PDT by CFW

Former President Donald Trump said Monday that he did not show the classified U.S. military document that he referred to during an audio-recorded meeting with a book publisher in July 2021.

In the first of a two-part Fox News interview on Monday, Trump insisted that he never showed any classified military plan to attack Iran prepared by General Mark Milley, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Trump says he never ordered the plan.

The meeting occurred on July 21, 2021, approximately six months after Trump’s presidency ended, at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. The meeting involved a writer, publisher, and two aides of the former president, and centered around a forthcoming book authored by Mark Meadows, Trump’s former chief of staff.

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Contrary to the charges made in the indictment, Trump insisted that the papers he had during the meeting consisted of numerous newspaper and magazine clippings “about Iran and other things” that referred to a classified military plan rather than the actual classified documents.

“There was no document,” Trump insisted during Monday’s Fox News interview.

“That was a massive amount of papers and everything else talking about Iran and other things,” he continued. “And it may have been held up or may not, but that was not a document. I didn’t have a document, per se. There was nothing to declassify. These were newspaper stories, magazine stories, and articles.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: corruption; dojfbi; indictment; osint; shiftingbidenblowers; shiftingexcuses; shiftingkarens; shiftingrinos; trump
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I said at the time of the "breaking bombshell news" that it sounded something like what Trump describes. He was using the papers on his desk as an example while explaining his authority as President to possess classified documents. He wasn't showing classified documents themselves. This makes way much more sense that what the government is alleging!
1 posted on 06/20/2023 4:26:32 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

However, my question is who is running to the FBI with recordings of Trump and his conversations with others?


2 posted on 06/20/2023 4:28:31 AM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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To: CFW

And here is another Epoch Times article regarding the indictment and Trump’s statements on the boxes stored at Mar a Lago.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-defends-handling-of-boxes-in-first-interview-since-arraignment_5343369.html


3 posted on 06/20/2023 4:30:39 AM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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To: CFW
However, my question is who is running to the FBI with recordings of Trump and his conversations with others?

Maybe the FBI has been wiretapping everything he has said since he announced his candidacy in 2015.

4 posted on 06/20/2023 4:32:06 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: CFW
However, my question is who is running to the FBI with recordings of Trump and his conversations with others?

The incident reported on in the article mentions a writer, a book publisher and two of Trump's aides, so that would mean one of those four. I have no idea whether a writer or a book publisher would bother to tape a conversation like this (about a potential book), so the odds are one of Trump's aides did.
5 posted on 06/20/2023 4:37:44 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: CFW

Well, the other people at this meeting appeared to be publishing representatives eager to have Mark Meadows “tell-all exposé” a controversial release.
There’s that...


6 posted on 06/20/2023 4:39:03 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Cracker...)
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To: CFW
With easy and cheap recording tech available to everyone, one has to assume the serious potential of whatever is being said will be recorded when there are other people involved.
7 posted on 06/20/2023 4:42:25 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I have no idea whether a writer or a book publisher would bother to tape a conversation like this (about a potential book)


Didn’t Woodward record his interview, with Pres Trump....and, later play the President’s words....out of context?

Am I remembering that, correctly?


8 posted on 06/20/2023 4:43:57 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: marktwain

And with AI, recordings can be made up that have you saying what they want you to say.


9 posted on 06/20/2023 4:44:46 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: gitmo

Yes indeed.

It is becoming harder and harder to use a recording to show reality.


10 posted on 06/20/2023 4:49:07 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Jane Long
Didn’t Woodward record his interview, with Pres Trump....and, later play the President’s words....out of context?

Am I remembering that, correctly?


Yes - that interview was for Woodward's book on Trump, titled "Rage". But if a publisher was also on hand, that makes me think this was more of a preliminary session to negotiate for book rights or to discuss what the book would be about, not a working session for book content - and in that case I don't know why Trump would allow the conversation to be recorded by the publisher or writer. Trump's aides seem like the better bet for a recording in this situation.
11 posted on 06/20/2023 4:50:43 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: CFW

“on the way to acquiring weapons, there are all sorts of thresholds that we would like to prevent. And one of them was portrayed by Mr. Netanyahu in the U.N. about a decade ago, where he drew a line of Iran acquiring one bomb’s worth of 20% enriched material [which would represent 90% of the process of making bomb-grade material]. And by the way, the Iranians respected that, and did not cross that line until 2021. I think it should be understood by everybody that for Israel, this is a threat of existential dimension, a strategic threat. Israel is determined to prevent Iran from acquiring the capability to become a nuclear-armed state.”

“When it comes to the fissile material, as the U.S. administration has indicated, and we agree, the timeline is such that Iran within weeks could acquire one bomb’s worth of military grade fissile material.”

Mossad Director David Barnea:

“In a speech at the International Institute for Counter Terrorism on Sept. 12, 2022: ‘The Iranian leadership must understand that attacks against Israel or Israelis, directly or indirectly by proxies, will be met with a painful response against those responsible, on Iranian soil… The deal [2015 nuclear deal] is based on Iranian lies. Iran has sought to build a nuclear weapon that endangers Israel’s existence. The deal will easily help them reach this goal under international legitimization.’”

IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Aviv Kohavi:

“The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action [JCPOA – the 2015 Iran nuclear deal] was signed with Iran when it already had enough nuclear material for seven potential nuclear bombs: six bombs from low-level enriched uranium and another one from 20% enriched uranium.

“The situation today [is focused on] four potential bombs, even less. It is true that one of them is based on 60% enriched uranium; the distance between 60% and 20% is only a few weeks, so it does not really matter. What is important is not to allow Iran to obtain a nuclear bomb, but also not to get to the point where it can rapidly break out into a nuclear bomb within weeks.

“That was, in my view, the biggest problem with the JCPOA. I thought it was a bad deal at the time, and I did not hide my view. Our responsibility in the IDF is to be ready to strike a substantial blow against the nuclear facilities and also against second-level military targets, and to be ready for a broader conflict with Iran.

“This is what we did in recent years. One, we upgraded our intelligence to greatly increase the number of targets. Second, we increased the number of munitions and systems needed to attack Iran, with the process now at a peak. Third, we built operational plans. Fourth, and most important, we are training for this. We finished two drills. One was during the IDF’s War Month, and the second was at the end of November. We are about to hold a third very large exercise.

“In under a year, we are going to have carried out three training exercises with dozens of aircraft, refueling aircraft and all of the operative units. In addition, we also established an Iran Department in the IDF, led by a major general. All of this speaks for itself regarding the level of preparation that we are achieving.”

National Security Advisor Tzachi Hanegbi:

“The central mission of the prime minister and his primary obligation is to ensure that Iran does not obtain nuclear weapons. The alternative to an attack is accepting a reality in which a radical regime has nuclear weapons. No Israeli leader can accept that.”

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant:

“One thing have to be made clear, loud and clear: Israel will not allow Iran to possess weapons of mass destructions, nuclear weapons aiming Israel.”

Defense Minister Benny Gantz:

“Israel has significantly increased its preparedness in recent years and is preparing for the possibility of an attack on Iran… You may cross the sky to the east in two or three years and take part in an attack on nuclear sites in Iran, for which we are preparing.”

https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2023/jan/25/israel-iran-threat-options


12 posted on 06/20/2023 4:54:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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prove otherwise

get stuffed, libtards


13 posted on 06/20/2023 4:55:02 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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“Juniper Oak integrated U.S. and Israeli fifth-generation fighter assets, which are the most advanced and capable, she said.

“The USS George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group, which participated in the exercise, involved command and control elements, rescue and refueling aircraft and live fire exercises with more than 140 aircraft, and roughly 6,400 U.S. troops alongside more than 1,500 Israeli troops.”

“Juniper Oak 23.2 integrated unmanned aerial vehicles, strategic bombers, jet fighters and precision fires. U.S. and Israeli forces conducted long-range strikes, suppression of enemy air defense, electronic attacks, offensive counter and air interdiction, and air operations in the maritime domain. In four days, these troops dropped more than 180,000 pounds of live munitions”

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3279772/largest-us-israeli-exercise-in-history-concludes/


14 posted on 06/20/2023 5:14:21 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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“The leaked documents [of Airman Jack Teixerira] although still unauthenticated with some attributing them to being part of a misinformation campaign – were labeled “secret” and resembled routine updates that the U.S. military’s Joint of Staff would produce daily but not distribute to the public. They were dated ranging from February 23 to March 1, and detailed the progress of weapons and equipment going into Ukraine as well as U.S. spying efforts on Russian security services, NYT first reported.”

Joe Biden:

“I’m not concerned about the leak, I’m concerned that it happened. But there is nothing contemporaneous that I’m aware of”

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/1681397348-biden-says-u-s-getting-close-on-leak-investigation


15 posted on 06/20/2023 5:26:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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Didn’t Woodward record his interview, with Pres Trump....and, later play the President’s words....out of context?

Have you read the book?

What was out of context?

Here’s a novel idea - don’t want the possibility of words being taken out of context - don’t agree to be tape recorded for hours on end!

A prime example of an unforced error by the President.

16 posted on 06/20/2023 5:29:46 AM PDT by Fury
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“May 17, 2023 - World
Scoop: U.S. proposed conducting joint military planning with Israel on Iran”

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/17/israel-us-military-planning-iran


17 posted on 06/20/2023 5:32:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: Fury

Sure, furry. Whatever you say, gal.

Your marbles are over there....go get them and go back to bed.

Try, again, later after your morning cup of FAIL has worn off.


18 posted on 06/20/2023 5:34:56 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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About 3/4 of “secret” information is getting on the internet and knowing where to run the search correctly.

1/8 is cracking a book and general knowledge.

1/16 is specialized, non-secret knowledge obtained by calling some professor somewhere

1/32 is something from the NSA or its like —phone calls, emails, satellite

1/64 is human intelligence, with non-secret sources

1/64 is human intelligence with actual spy stuff

The top fractions are too high. But you get the idea.

Half of “secret” stuff is marked secret to make the author feel important. Another 49% is because it’s an honest assessment of something and counter to the Democrat party. 1% is actual spy stuff.


19 posted on 06/20/2023 5:36:59 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jane Long

LOL!

You never disappoint - keep on!


20 posted on 06/20/2023 6:07:40 AM PDT by Fury
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