The ancient China tyrant, Cao Cao (Ts'ao Ts'ao)--a model for Xi Jingshen, and Volodymyr Zelensky--said thousands of years ago:
Sound familiar?
Posted on 06/15/2023 6:51:28 PM PDT by Mariner
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Thursday that a loss to Russia could ultimately force the U.S. to choose between the “collapse of NATO” or going to war.
“If Ukraine would lose, if Russia would occupy Ukraine, Russia will continue going towards Baltic countries, Poland, etcetera,” Zelensky said in an interview with NBC News. “And they will start war with one of the NATO countries, and at this moment, the U.S. would have to choose the collapse of NATO or go to war.”
The Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are all members of NATO, as is Poland. An attack on any member of the alliance is “considered an attack against them all” under the treaty organization’s principle of collective defense.
Zelensky brought up the possibility of NATO involvement in response to the suggestion from some Republican politicians that the U.S. needs to limit its spending on the war in Ukraine.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — a 2024 Republican presidential candidate — previously described the war as a “territorial dispute,” while arguing that the U.S. should not become “further entangled” in the conflict. Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) also warned last fall that a Republican majority in the House would not write a “blank check” to Ukraine for aid.
“Is any candidate or senator who thinks it costs too much for the United States to support Ukraine, is he ready to go to war, to fight, to send his kids,” Zelensky said Thursday, adding, “Because anyway, they will have to do this if NATO gets involved.”
“It’s not Ukraine against Russia,” he said. “Russia is fighting against the civilized world.”
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Clear aggressor? Excuse me? Remove your bias and look again.
I did two tours in Bosnia. Serbs were not the bad guys.
i remember lots of gop seats flipped dnc as harvested ballots came in. this was in addition to electronic counting.
I guess I am not sure arguing or debating who votes for whom really matters anymore. who counts (or delivers) votes is the only issue.
Biden is afraid that a peace agreement that does not humiliate Russia would be a “Ukrainian loss” and therefore a blow to his own prestige.
“I did two tours in Bosnia. Serbs were not the bad guys.”
The UN said the same when they investigated the wars there. The Serbs were VERY OPEN with information, such as birth records, and death listings. The Muslims wouldn’t help a bit. They were hiding stuff.
So which side did NATO bomb? The Serbs, obviously.
The only thing that BIDEN is afraid of is that he will quit getting his 10% and there will be no Ice Cream or children to fondle and sniff.
so am I
“Collapse of NATO” should’ve occurred in 1991 when its mission was completed.
It’s not about taking sides. But I can truly say Zelensky would have our boys over their fighting his battle in mass and never blink an eye over their death any more than he does the people of his country.
The ancient China tyrant, Cao Cao (Ts'ao Ts'ao)--a model for Xi Jingshen, and Volodymyr Zelensky--said thousands of years ago:
Sound familiar?
Again, Zelensky refuses to tell his nation and countrymen, that Crimea is beyond their reach, though maintaining a ceasefire line where the current front is . . . within reach.
The notion that Ukraine will recover every bit of land (and also be “reparated” by Russia), might not be obtainable until some future date when both Russia and Ukraine have finally learned how to be good neighbors, and Moscow miraculously becomes interested in both: behaving and good.
Ukraine does not have the strength to take Melitopol, Mariupol, and keep them, while also keeping Kharkiv and the northeast.
Zelensky jeopardizing his country and people, on a gambit of finding all the military support that he wishes, is a mistake most harmful to his country and people - regardless of all the harm to others. Ukraine loses a lot, because Ukraine will not accept how fortunate it is to have, and be able to defend, the territory and people that Ukraine has managed to have.
PS. Biden and the left (everywhere) cannot be trusted.
Fully agree. Amazingly stated
eff Zelensky
Then why the hell do Californians vote overwhelmingly for the child-abusers who push that crap?
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Because California, as well as Oregon & Washington are run by people who believe in feminist supremacy. Feminist ideology is a huge factor in these 3 states.
Since the end of the Reagan Presidency the West Coast has turned into a left-wing bastion. The reasons for this are numerous but it starts with the education sector, media, & entertainment industry.
The next two factors are urbanization and an invasion of foreigners.
The foreign invasion of California is undeniable according to census data & is a major factor in turning that state into a one party democrat dictatorship.
Oregon & Washington don’t have the foreign invader excuse, the numbers aren’t there, that’s where your “white college educated liberal” comes into play.
God doesn’t give a damn about military capability. We just left behind billions of dollars of equipment to a bunch of ignorant goat herders who murdered 13 of our family. If God is not on your side, you’re doomed no matter what
Good post!
“Complete collapse of NATO...”
Gets my vote.
NATO is a giant money siphon on the US, a permanent entitlement for the Military Industrial Complex. Like welfare for Raytheon.
And they get to demo their latest and greatest weapons on live human beings, soon-to-be-dead Russians and Syrians and other fodder. And create soundtracked videos and fancy brochures to show our corrupt Congress over caviar lunches.
“Look how many got blowed up with this single XRF-53A1 do-hicky! You can buy 500 more for only Eleventy Zillion dollars if you act now! And by the way, Mr. Graham, we have a few board seats opening up soon. Know anyone who could fill them (wink)? Oh, and are you flying out with us on our big jet this weekend, for the photo-op in Kosovo this weekend? We’ll send you a limo full of young boys early Saturday to pick you up. Hope you can make it!
Shutting down this gargantuan wealth burning national, generational rape is what Trump tried to do. And THAT’S why they’re all still trying to stop him.
So eff NATO *spit* and damn everyone to hell who supports them and their coups and endless wars. I don’t see them sending thir kids to die, just yours. They should all see a firing squad for what they’ve done to us and the rest of the world.
When NATO collapses, I’ll dance naked under the moon and howl with glee!
Preach it Brother!
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