Students killed in UK rampage were England youth field hockey player and ‘bright young man’

NY Post ^ | June 14, 2023 | Lee Brown

[BenLurkin]

Barnaby Philip John Webber and Grace O’Malley-Kumar, both 19-year-old University of Nottingham students, were murdered at 4 a.m. Tuesday while returning from a party celebrating the end of their exams — with a witness hearing their “awful, blood-curdling screams.”

Police believe the same 31-year-old suspect also stabbed to death 65-year-old school staffer Ian Robert Coates — stealing his white van, which was then plowed into three others, leaving one man fighting for his life.

A witness previously told the BBC that the young students were stabbed to death by a black-clad suspect who then walked away “as calm as anything.”

He has yet to be identified, but is a 31-year-old migrant from West Africa with no known criminal record, according to The Times of London.

[dougherty]

I follow a Brit on twitter named Steve Laws. He believes all the invaders should be deported, no matter age or sex. I agree. All of the lefties who worship diversity can move their lily white asses to one of the invaders’ countries. Stop bringing them in to destroy the West.

[stevio]

So are we.

[BenLurkin]

Man I hope not, or else I’m in real trouble.

[Kenny500c]

You and me both.

[bgill]

Where’s the outrage to ban sharp pointy things that seem to be a certain group’s weapons of choice.

[AnAmericanMother]

Correct. I think it's an attempt to "distance" the poem. "Saxon" howoever makes no sense in the context of the poem.

Kipling wrote it in response to the German escalation at the beginning of WWI, and probably in direct response to “Haßgesang gegen England” - "Song of Hate Against England" by Ernst Lissauer:

Wir wollen nicht lassen von unserm Haß
Wir haben alle nur einen Haß
Wir lieben vereint, wir hassen vereint
Wir haben alle nur einen Feind:
England

We will never let go of our hate,
All of us have only one hate,
We love united, we hate united,
We all have only one enemy -
England

Lissauer also coined the phrase "Gott strafe England" (God punish England). Oddly enough, he was Jewish (but a dedicated Prussian). He wound up hated by everyone . . . and fortunately for him died in Vienna before Hitler annexed Austria.

[762X51]

Cultural enrichment can be risky.

[RoosterRedux]

Yep. Everyone knows that and asks the same question.

There are many discussions online about that subject.

I think the poem works either way, which is why I included both titles in my comment.

The reason I posted the "Saxon" version is because I could only find a good, copy-worthy image with "Saxon" instead of "English."

[Hiddigeigei]

Kipling’s son was killed in WWI. Calling it “The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon” is the exact opposite from what he intended. Kipling entitle his poem “The Beginnings” about when the English began to hate the Germans (i.e. Saxons).

[dfwgator]

Brits were killing the Boers, long before the blacks were.

[Eagles6]

Yes, I know.

It's a song the ANC sings to rile up the masses, to kill Whitey.

[RoosterRedux]

As you know, the English are Anglo-Saxons and the Germans aren’t purely Saxon.

[jmacusa]

The difference, and a difference hanging by a thread is that We The People still have the right to keep and bear arms.

The Brits gave up that right.

[dfwgator]

[Hiddigeigei]

"As you know, the English are Anglo-Saxons and the Germans aren’t purely Saxon."
The Saxons are one of the German tribes; of the sixteen German states (Laender) three include Saxony in their names (Saxony, Saxony Anhalt, and Lower Saxony). When one refers to Saxons, they refer to members of that tribe. I think Kipling would be outraged to have his poem sneakily change and post his name as the author of the changed poem.

[ridesthemiles]

Cannot take the jungle out of the invader.

[Bigg Red]

Thank you. I was not aware of “Song of Hate Against England” by Ernst Lissauer.

[AnAmericanMother]

It’s not easy to find in English! (that’s my translation, btw)

[Bigg Red]

Isn’t it true that Kipling wrote the poem after his son was killed in WWI?

[AnAmericanMother]

No, but as a man of great imagination he feared all the time what did, inevitably, happen. (They said that you had to keep moving at the Somme to survive, because every square foot of ground was hit at least twice.)

Kipling's poem was a header (a custom of his) to the chilling revenge tale "Mary Postgate" (don't read it before you go to bed) which was published in the Pall Mall Magazine for September 1915. John Kipling was reported "missing presumed dead" a few months later.