Posted on 06/14/2023 9:58:32 AM PDT by Red Badger
Almost 15 percent of the Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFVs) sent to Ukraine by Joe Biden’s government have been destroyed, according to open-source intelligence analysts.
Oryx, a Netherlands-based operation which has been tracking materiel losses on both sides of the conflict through visual confirmation, puts the number of destroyed Bradleys at 16, per CNN.
The news comes as Zelensky has officially confirmed his forces have commenced major counter-offensive operations. Friendly news outlets are so far reporting only “small” gains, however, with four villages in the Donetsk region believed to have been captured as of the time of writing.
In addition to the American-made Bradleys, a number of European-made Leopard 2 main battle tanks also appear to have been lost.
In particular, Forbes reports that around half of Ukraine’s Leopard 2Rs, specialized for breaching enemy defenses, have been taken out.
They should get all the equipment in Afghanistan.
What is your source for that?
The ONLY statistic that matters is the number/percentage lost of those that are actually deployed into combat.
The problem is that this is a new kind of war. When you move, everyone sees it. Drones guide artillery down an drones kill. Moving heavy equipment like armor, without air superiority, leads to huge loss rates. In this scenario, if you’re in missile, artillery, drone, or aircraft range, you’re in combat. These will lead to new expected loss rates, something that will be hard to compare. I think the Russians already figured it out, but not yet the Ukrainians. 100 years later, and back to trenches. Napalm, fuel air bombs, cluster munitions, supposedly made trenches obsolete. Think aircraft.
When you retrospectively look at the closing years of WWI, and the beginning of WWII, the difference was movement. However, was it tanks or tank movement? The later depended heavily on air superiority. Without the ground attack aircraft, Stuka then others, would it have looked like WW1 with better tanks?
NATO tactics without air superiority may not be effective now, no matter how good the tanks/APC’s. Ukrainians are going to die to prove it though.
That can’t be possible, the media says the Ukrainians have the Ruskies on the run.
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Well, I’m not sure if it’s a credible source or not. You know you can’t really trust the US Military to tell the truth these days. But here’s one link.
https://www.7atc.army.mil/JMTGU/
“Mentor and Advise Armed Forces of Ukraine Trainers: U.S. Soldiers, joined by NATO allies and partners, mentored and advised Armed Forces of Ukraine Observer Controller / Trainers at the Combat Training Center located near Yavoriv. This was accomplished by employing a “train-the-trainer” approach, enabling Ukrainians to take the lead in training rotational brigades.
“Enable Combat Training Center Capability and Capacity: U.S. Soldiers worked with Armed Forces of Ukraine partners at the Combat Training Center - Yavoriv to develop and implement systems to improve combat training and increase training center capacity. Combat Training Center - Yavoriv delivered Brigade-and-below collective training for Armed Forces of Ukraine Brigades.”
Not like this is any secret, is it?
Yavoriv is in Lviv Oblast, UKRAINE.
All that training within Ukraine was before Russia invaded, NATO was pulled out of that Ukrainian base.
“”Uh, do we have “advisers” there? We know how that ended up in VN.””
A few hundred advisors were never a problem in Vietnam, JFK sending in 16,000 troops was the problem.
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