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Trump Was Right About Russia
American Thinker ^ | June 10, 2023 | Matthew G. Andersson

Posted on 06/10/2023 9:47:01 AM PDT by Kazan

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To: ansel12

The latest Russian territorial invasion is already over. Russia lacks the military means of ground forces, air forces or naval forces to proceed with the invasion.

Putin lacks not only the will but the ability to retreat and save face.

The world is against him


21 posted on 06/10/2023 11:16:13 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Kazan

I believe that in the 1990’s when the conditions of the USSR break-up were being settled there was a desire for real peace on both sides. Subsequent NATO leadership blew it.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-h


22 posted on 06/10/2023 11:21:45 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: elpadre

sorry - try this: file:///C:/Users/Jim/Desktop/NATO%20-%20Russia/NATO%20Expansion%20What%20Gorbachev%20Heard%20National%20Security%20Archive.htm


23 posted on 06/10/2023 11:25:52 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: elpadre

Nope - try again:

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early


24 posted on 06/10/2023 11:31:35 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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To: Kazan
Trump was actually a peace president, including in his correct understanding of the dangers of a nuclear-armed Iran.

A client state of Russia - empowered and enabled by Russia.

Trump was indeed correct about Russia but certainly not in the way this author claims. He was much more aggressive and proactive with Russia and headed them off, warned Europe and in particularly Germany the dangers of the Nord Stream pipeline and becoming dependent on Russia for energy - which is why his administration denied it and Biden approved it. It is Biden, like Obama before him, that treated Russia with kid gloves and Russia seized the opportunity that they did not have with stronger administrations like Trump.

It was Obama who said "The 1980s are calling and they want their foreign policy back" - certainly not Trump. This article is so nonsensical and spinning an alternate history - this commentator is trying to spin this into a pro-Russia narrative. Russia and the US were not allies, and Trump certainly did not treat them as such. He treated them like the real threat that they were...not seeking hostility and trying to seek peace, but it was indeed an approach of peace through strength.

25 posted on 06/10/2023 12:09:30 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Saintgermain

You are such a liar.

Putin/Russia started it by attacking and invading.

Who is not going to fight back?

You I guess.


26 posted on 06/10/2023 12:17:17 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kazan

Russia was on path to integrating with the world and then Putin dragged it back to the Soviet era. Putin’s problem was that he didn’t have the industrial base and output of Eastern Europe to parasitize.

Maybe after Putin gets killed Russia can get back on path.


27 posted on 06/10/2023 12:24:59 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: ifinnegan
It's not supposed to mean anything - just spinning an alternate history to try to create a pro-Russian narrative.

Trump blasts Germany over gas pipeline deal with Russia (calls for NATO to spend more on defense)

Germany Reacts to Trump's UNGA Speech (warning them against Russia, expansionism) He warned them and they laughed at him. They aren't laughing now.

Trump: Germany is totally controlled by Russia, "very bad for NATO"

Trump taunts Russia on Syria, Russia reacts

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it! 6:57 AM · Apr 11, 2018

28 posted on 06/10/2023 12:25:15 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Yep. Nice post.


29 posted on 06/10/2023 12:41:31 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: bert
What are you babbling about?

First, Russia did everything it could to prevent going to war 1) with Minsk Accords, which NATO worked hard to undermine 2) In 12/21 when they came to us with their security concerns and tried negotiate 3) When the Russians came close to peace deal with Ukraine in Turkey last March and we and the Brits intervened to kill any deal.

We did everything we could to make this war happen, start with the illegal coup we fomented in Ukraine in 2014.

And, Russia is kicking Ukraine's ass. That's why the much ballyhooed counteroffensive is total failure. Ukraine isn't getting an inch of territory back.

Take lies and go screw Ernie.

30 posted on 06/10/2023 12:53:05 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: ifinnegan

It’s like these people didn’t live through the years of the Trump administration...they remember nothing, even some of the most dramatic news events, yet have strong opinions about the same. Or...they are being less than honest and have other motives.


31 posted on 06/10/2023 12:55:13 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Kazan

You are just foolish to believe all that BS.


32 posted on 06/10/2023 1:40:05 PM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: ifinnegan

Zelensky is just an actor and he has been playing the entire world into handing him money without any accountability. He claims he is fighting for freedom and democracy when he refuses to comply with the Minsk Agreement which falsely was to allow those in the Donbas to vote on their own future.

Now he has empowered his government to shut down all dissent. Upon his return from meeting the Biden Administration, he took back some needed advice – restrict ALL media, block ALL websites that expose the truth, and order Big Tech to censor all negative comments about him or Ukraine. This site is not blocked even in China – it will be in Ukraine. So much for freedom, democracy, and free speech.

It was Kyiv that started the war by sending troops to attack the Donbas in 2014 and that was the West’s installed “temporary” government that started the war – not any elected Ukrainian government. Zelensky was elected promising to pursue peace and end corruption. He has done exactly the opposite. So much for campaign promises. They always say whatever they need to win, and then do the exact opposite. When Zelensky was elected, the Russian press cheered. They thought this actor would actually seek peace. Zelensky Realized it Was His Opportunity To Become a Billionaire.


33 posted on 06/10/2023 1:59:42 PM PDT by Saintgermain
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To: bert
Anatomy of a NATO-Planned, Trained, and Armed Disaster
34 posted on 06/10/2023 3:46:58 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: MeganC
You elitists hate, hate, hate Putin! He won't comply with the liberal world order. He won't implement the LGBT or Green agenda. He has shutdown the money laundering operation in Ukraine.

Meanwhile, patriotic Americans want BIDEN to die and America can get back on track.

Russia is better off under Putin, BTW, than it has been before communism inflicted its nation. That is what 13% flat tax rates and rejecting the Green agenda can do for a nation.

35 posted on 06/10/2023 3:51:22 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Trump was right and 81 million voters were wrong.


36 posted on 06/10/2023 3:54:51 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: MeganC
https://www.agenzianova.com/en/news/la-russia-entra-tra-le-prime-dieci-economie-del-mondo-per-il-pil-ai-prezzi-attuali/

Despite the effects of the war in Ukraine and the sanctions imposed by the West, according to data from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in 2022 Russia entered the top ten economies in the world, overtaking Italy, Brazil and South Korea, for gross domestic product (GDP) at current prices. A climb linked, in particular, to the strengthening of the value of the ruble and the increase in the prices of the raw materials of which Russia is a producer. In its last October update, the IMF confirmed that the Russian economy will contract in real terms by 3,4 percentage points in the year that is drawing to a close. Linked to current prices, however, GDP instead grew to 2.130 billion dollars, in ninth place in the world ranking.

37 posted on 06/10/2023 4:02:59 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

The point was to keep Russia and China from teaming up against us. We — or rather, our rulers — blew it. Now we are wasting money on a war that could have been prevented, and China is picking up client states around the world.


38 posted on 06/10/2023 4:07:23 PM PDT by x
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To: Kazan

The point was to keep Russia and China from teaming up against us. We — or rather, our rulers — blew it. Now we are wasting money on a war that could have been prevented, and China is picking up client states around the world.


39 posted on 06/10/2023 4:07:24 PM PDT by x
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To: Kazan

The point was to keep Russia and China from teaming up against us. We — or rather, our rulers — blew it. Now we are wasting money on a war that could have been prevented, and China is picking up client states around the world.


40 posted on 06/10/2023 4:07:24 PM PDT by x
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