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Push for rural, conservative counties in Oregon to join deep red Idaho gains traction
Fox News ^ | 6/8/23 | Liindsay Kornick

Posted on 06/08/2023 4:36:57 AM PDT by CFW

Wallowa County became the 12th Oregon county to join the "Greater Idaho" movement when special election results on the measure were finalized Tuesday.

The vote originally took place in May, with preliminary results showing support for the effort leading by only 21 votes. After all votes were finalized in June, the lead shrunk to only seven votes, narrowly avoiding the state requirement for a recount.

The "Greater Idaho" effort originally began in 2020 as an idea for large swaths of rural eastern Oregon to secede and join the more conservative Idaho to get away from the western, progressive part of the state.

With Wallowa County's vote, 12 out of 12 counties that have held an election on a "Greater Idaho" measure of any kind have voted in favor of exploring the move.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: counties; idaho; oregon; seceding
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To: CFW

Soon, you might have Idaho bordering the Pacific. They might have to pay an income tax, since Oregon doesn’t have an income tax. Oh well, the price of FREEDOM...


21 posted on 06/08/2023 6:49:14 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Guns don't kill people, LIBERALS DO!! Support the Second Amendment...)
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To: CFW
...deep red Idaho...

There's a dramatic sense of ignorance in that claim.

Idaho is being overrun by migrating californians and Idahoans are permitting the slow transformation as they infect the bureaucracy.

I am in support of splitting the state of Oregon (perhaps the 58th state /s), but not necessarily 'greater Idaho'.

Merger-wise, State of Jefferson seems more realistic, but equally difficult to accomplish.

22 posted on 06/08/2023 6:53:47 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: CFW

I like it, god bless them.


23 posted on 06/08/2023 7:15:43 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Biden whispered "Don't Jump")
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To: CFW

If this succeeds, I would look for the western counties of The Peoples Republic of Minnesota to join the Dakotas and leave the Minneapolis metro area to plunge into a third world dung heap.


24 posted on 06/08/2023 7:29:47 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Fai Mao

In Connecticut, they are trying to merge Hartford and the suburbs into a new city. Connecticut has 165 towns, but some are trying to reduce the number of towns. No thank you...


25 posted on 06/08/2023 7:31:59 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Guns don't kill people, LIBERALS DO!! Support the Second Amendment...)
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To: CFW

There are lots of examples of this when one city dominates a state but is totally at odds with the rest of the state. Or when a few counties are totally different from the rest of the state.

For example, the rest of Illinois would dearly love to get rid of Chicago.

The 3 westernmost counties of Maryland want to join West Virginia with which they have much more in common than the rest of Maryland.

A lot of people in Virginia would like to get rid of the 3 DC counties aka “Occupied Northern Virginia”.

A lot of the rest of New York would love to get rid of NYC.

etc etc. If/when the US does split, the lines are not going to be as neat as state lines. They will probably have to be drawn at the county level to avoid too much strife.


26 posted on 06/08/2023 7:43:42 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: lodi90

Boise is growing rapidly. I’ve heard reports that the vast majority of that growth though is from rural Idaho.


27 posted on 06/08/2023 7:44:13 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: lodi90

The Californians who have been leaving in recent years are mostly Leftugees....ie they’re the kind of people you want.

The idea that most of the people leaving blue states are coming to spread the Leftist plague is outdated.


28 posted on 06/08/2023 7:46:21 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: lodi90

But if it’s going to be swamped, buy now so you can get in before the next property value spike. That is, if Californians still have any monetary value left after they’ve run themselves into the ground.


29 posted on 06/08/2023 7:47:46 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: The Great RJ

Having lived in Minnesota before.....Good idea but the Iron Range is going to have to flip first. It shows signs of flipping like a lot of other working class areas have done throughout the country, but it hasn’t quite happened yet.

Once it does happen (and it will), it will be the Twin Cities (with maybe some lefties in Rochester) vs the rest of the state.


30 posted on 06/08/2023 7:49:07 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

That depends a bit on income level. There a BUNCH of wealthy lefties that bought rural retreats and second homes since 2019 out here in Montana. Drove the prices through the roof. Drive in with their friggin Obama and Biden Harris bumper stickers and sit around dinners sipping coffee and talking their socialist trash.


31 posted on 06/08/2023 7:50:58 AM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: CFW

The vote originally took place in May, with preliminary results showing support for the effort leading by only 21 votes. After all votes were finalized in June, the lead shrunk to only seven votes, narrowly avoiding the state requirement for a recount.

Seven votes

Pretty small number to avoid a recount.


32 posted on 06/08/2023 9:18:48 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: rigelkentaurus

Well thought out..
I second your logic


33 posted on 06/08/2023 5:45:03 PM PDT by Bobalu (There was always going to be a reckoning....... and here it is.)
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To: ten18; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; 1malumprohibitum; ...
If you would like more information about what’s happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me. Please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.
34 posted on 06/09/2023 5:23:35 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: CFW

https://kevinhayeswilson.com/redraw/


very easy to move counties from one state to another. See above.


35 posted on 05/27/2024 9:47:40 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: CFW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_(United_States)

When independence came, the framers of the Constitution left the matter to the states. Subsequently, state constitutions conceptualized county governments as arms of the state.[13]


The history of counties is interesting.


36 posted on 05/27/2024 9:51:36 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: CFW

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/county-secession-local-efforts-to-redraw-political-borders/

What is notable about these movements, then, is not their potential to radically restructure political jurisdictions, but what they telegraph about the deterioration of Americans’ willingness to tolerate life under the rule of the opposing party.


37 posted on 05/27/2024 9:56:11 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ScottinVA

“Why in hell would they want to remain in the Cali-like hellhole of Oregon?”

The counties physically would remain in the same place.


38 posted on 05/27/2024 10:16:32 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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