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Disinformation is Circulating About Ron DeSantis’ Mother’s Birth Location – She Was Born In/Near Poland Ohio not the Country of Poland in Europe
The Post & Email Newspaper ^ | 5 Jun 2023 | CDR Charles Kerchner (Ret)

Posted on 06/05/2023 1:30:31 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner

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To: CDR Kerchner

Trying to explain NATURAL BORN CITIZEN to those who do NOT get the difference is very frustrating.


61 posted on 06/05/2023 4:51:29 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Republican Wildcat

NO-—BOTH PARENTS MUST ALREADY BE USA CITIZENS-—NOT just “HERE”.

COMPARE TO ANCHOR BABIES


62 posted on 06/05/2023 4:53:01 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: South Dakota

THEY CAN BE FOREIGN BORN——BUT HAVE TO BECOME USA CITIZEN BEFORE HAVING THE CHILD IN QUESTION.

Could be born in Norway—

Came to USA at age 15-—legally

Became USA citizens at age 22-——

Became parents at age 27-—

CHILD is NBC


63 posted on 06/05/2023 4:56:16 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Dilbert San Diego

ARTICLE 2

Section ONE

Clause 5

US CONSTITUTION


64 posted on 06/05/2023 4:57:06 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: CDR Kerchner

THANK YOU VERY MUCH-—

GREAT CLARIFICATION


65 posted on 06/05/2023 4:58:03 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: South Dakota

NIKKI HALEY is NOT ELIGIBLE.


66 posted on 06/05/2023 4:59:40 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

Sorry Rides, you are wrong in part of what you write. The parents do not have to be natural born Citizens themselves, just a U.S. Citizen of any kind before their child is born in the USA, however they acquired it. The parents of the child born in the USA must both be a U.S. Citizen when their child is born, for said child to be a “natural born Citizen” of the United States. The parents can either be born Citizens themselves, or naturalized Citizens who have taken the Oath of Allegiance to the USA wherein they renounce all their foreign birth allegiances.

A “natural born Citizen” is a person born in the country to parents who were both Citizens of the country when their child was born here. The parents can be either born Citizens themselves or naturalized Citizens as long as they were Citizens of the USA when their child was born in the USA. See the book “Natural Born Citizen”: https://tinyurl.com/4ah86efp and/or this website for more details on who truly is a “natural born Citizen” without any doubt: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html

Now do remember folks. Let’s stay on subject here. The subject of my article that was posted at ThePostEmail.com newspaper and shared here is that a false rumor was being circulated that Ron DeSantis’ mother was born in the country of Poland and moved with her parents at some point in time to the USA. That is absolutely false. She was born in/near Poland OH which is in Mahoning County OH abutting the border with PA. And both of her parents were also born in OH and thus were U.S. Citizens all their lives. Thus Ron’s mother was a “natural born Citizen” of the USA, i.e., born in the USA to parents who were U.S. Citizens when she was born. So the person who is spreading and circulating the rumor about Ron’s mother being born in Poland her family moved from there to the USA is either very nefarious or stupid.


67 posted on 06/05/2023 5:31:56 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: ridesthemiles

Or more succinctly to your comment.The parents do not have to be “born Citizens” themselves, just a U.S. Citizen of any kind before their child is born in the USA, however the parents acquired it, i.e, by birth in the USA themselves or by naturalization as a U.S. Citizen. But the naturalization must have been done before their child was born so that they are U.S. Citizens when the child is born. They cannot pass along jus sanguinus U.S. citizenship to a child is they were not yet U.S. Citizens.


68 posted on 06/05/2023 5:40:50 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: ridesthemiles

She definitely is not a “natural born Citizen” of the United States. See my report about Nikki Haley (and also Ted Cruz) as well as Obama and Kamala Harris in this list of reports: https://www.scribd.com/lists/22182725/Some-Politicians-Seeking-High-Office-Who-Are-Not-A-Natural-Born-Citizen-of-U-S


69 posted on 06/05/2023 5:44:05 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: CDR Kerchner

I hear he has a brother who is a practicing homosapien.


70 posted on 06/05/2023 5:44:05 PM PDT by euram (allALL)
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To: ridesthemiles

But I again ask for comment here about why the authors of those bio type stories about Ron DeSantis contained such obviously wrong disinformation. Let’s here some Freeper comments about that.

Why do they do such stupid things like planting a story that Ron DeSantis’ mother was born in the country of Poland and moved to the USA, as is discussed in my article that was posted at ThePostEmail.com newspaper and shared here is that a false rumor was being circulated that Ron DeSantis’ mother was born in the country of Poland and moved with her parents at some point in time to the USA. That is absolutely false. She was born in/near Poland OH which is in Mahoning County OH abutting the border with PA. And both of her parents were also born in OH and thus were U.S. Citizens all their lives. Thus Ron’s mother was a “natural born Citizen” of the USA, i.e., born in the USA to parents who were U.S. Citizens when she was born. So the person who is spreading and circulating the rumor about Ron’s mother being born in Poland her family moved from there to the USA is either very nefarious or stupid. In my my opinion it is purposeful nefarious mind-bending, social engineering disinformation to keep the whole “natural born Citizen” debate all muddied up.


71 posted on 06/05/2023 5:49:37 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: devere

At least she wasn’t born in Moscow Idaho....

Or Uranus MO

https://www.uranusmissouri.com/


72 posted on 06/05/2023 6:13:51 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: ridesthemiles

NIKKI HALEY is NOT ELIGIBLE.
Neither is obama, romney, harris, cruz.
The uniparty doesnt care


73 posted on 06/05/2023 7:31:40 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Freepers have varying opinions on the definition of natural born citizenship.
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Some FReepers say Donald Trump is the only natural born American citizen in the entire USA, so he must be coronated President. /s


74 posted on 06/05/2023 8:10:44 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: ridesthemiles

Well she’s a good example of the controversy.

She’s an American citizen by birth, but there are questions about the citizenship status of her parents.

Some Freepers such as yourself, say that she is not eligible, because her parents were not American citizens at the time of her birth.

Other Freepers say that having been born an American citizen, she is eligible, regardless of her parents immigration status.

Who can say which group of Freepers are correct.


75 posted on 06/05/2023 9:10:55 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Adjectives mean something. The adjectives “natural born” before the term Citizen in the presidential eligibility clause means something natural that is created by the laws of nature and not by man-made laws. It is a term from Natural Law. It is not enough to be born an American citizen to be the President and Commander in Chief of our military, or the Vice President. To be constitutionally eligible for those high offices, the person must be an American “natural born Citizen” (nbC). The nbC term is all about minimizing the chance of foreign influence and divided allegiance at/by birth for the person who would be the Commander in Chief of our military once the founding generation was gone. The founding generation has a grandfather clause in the presidential eligibility clause (Article II Section 1 Clause 5) exempting them from the nbC term eligibility requirement because none of the founder were a “natural born Citizen” of the new nation when the Constitution was adopted. A “natural born Citizen” is a child of parents who were both U.S. citizens when their child was born in the country. Under those birth circumstances the child with born with sole allegiance to only the USA. An nbC is a person born with sole allegiance to one and only one country. A person born with dual Citizenship like Nikki Haley is not eligible.

Likewise Obama who was born a dual Citizen, British and U.S. is not eligible and he was a usurper in office, as is Kamala Harris. One must be born in the country to parents who are both Citizens of the country to avoid divided allegiance and multiple citizenship at birth. nbC is a national security issue. A person born with divided allegiances and dual national loyalty requirements at birth should not be the Commander in Chief of our military. That is what the founders and framers intended and were worried about in the future of our nation. Look at what Obama who was born with divided allegiance did to our country and is continuing to do via his leading from behind control of Biden and his administration. That is the WHY the founders and framers chose the “natural born Citizen” term and put it into our Constitution, the supreme law of our land. But both major political parties are ignoring the Constitution by putting forth constitutionally ineligible candidates. And our Constitution and nation is paying the price for the avarice for power of the major political parties, the Constitution be damned to them if it gets in the way of their political agenda.

Read this White Paper to learn more about the Who, What, When, Where, WHY, and How the nbC term was placed in the presidential eligibility clause of our U.S. Constitution: http://www.kerchner.com/protectourliberty/naturalborncitizen/TheWhoWhatWhenWhereWhyandHowofNBC-WhitePaper.pdf


76 posted on 06/05/2023 10:00:12 PM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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To: Larry Lucido

😂


77 posted on 06/06/2023 9:01:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: 1Old Pro

😂


78 posted on 06/06/2023 9:01:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: dfwgator

Hunter’s cabbage is definitely tasty. Had that in Walbrzych about 20 years ago.


79 posted on 06/06/2023 9:06:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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