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Time to abolish the FBI: The fact that we even have an FBI is proof that we're living in a post-constitutional America
American Thinker ^ | 06/03/2023 | Robert Curry

Posted on 06/03/2023 8:24:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 06/03/2023 8:24:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Unlike Lenin and Mao and Castro, they did not try to seize power in one fell swoop. They have been careful to do it progressively.

Aye, the "progressives" boil the frog one degree at a time.

2 posted on 06/03/2023 8:26:46 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trintarian. Deal with it!)
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I think every government file from 1840-1925 should be released by the next president.

The feds have been lying to us for a long, long time. It’s time to come clean, and rebuild the nation our founders envisioned.


3 posted on 06/03/2023 8:28:44 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: SeekAndFind

Here is James Madison in Federalist 45:

The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce…The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.
What does this mean? It seems to me that every state should handle its own Internal Investigations (e.g. OBI ( Ohio Bureau of Invetigations ), FBI ( Florida Bureau of Investigations ), TBI ( Texas Bureau of Investigations ) , etc. )
4 posted on 06/03/2023 8:29:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Federal Bureau of Instigation.

Careerists climbing the rungs by enticing the simple-minded, the gullible, the unbalanced, the mentally ill.

If they are stopping any real terrorist plots but they can’t tell us about the real ones, they can still dispense with the theatre of fools.

Go work on corruption. Look up, look inside, it’s all around.


5 posted on 06/03/2023 8:32:31 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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As long as wse haved people like McConnell in office it will never happen.

They had the perfect opportunity to horse trade, but no guts.

It takes determination and guts to horse trade effectively.


6 posted on 06/03/2023 8:35:42 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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The rationale for the FBI was the automobile.

Cars enabled gangsters to rob a bank in, say, Kansas, then quickly drive into Missouri, leaving the Kansas state police at the border. Rather than pursue, Kansas authorities would have to file extradition papers. By which time the robbers were gone and hidden.

The FBI -- Hoover's G-Men -- had jurisdiction throughout the U.S. They could pursue criminals from one state to another.

7 posted on 06/03/2023 8:39:31 PM PDT by Angelino97
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The FBI, from its start, steadily morphed, and slowly agglomerated power to the point where it is now America’s KGB

I don’t believe Congress ever established it in anything close to its present form, in fact, it its early days, Congress resisted it taking more power. Nonetheless, it took power anyway.

Could eliminating it be as simple as an executive order?


8 posted on 06/03/2023 8:50:02 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

The Dept of Education, the FBI, the Dept of Energy, the ATF and about 20 other agencies need to go.


9 posted on 06/03/2023 8:51:18 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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The FBI -- Hoover's G-Men -- had jurisdiction throughout the U.S. They could pursue criminals from one state to another.

My proposal would be: By executive order, simply disarm the FBI. Declare they may not carry, use, or train on any weapons. They can continue to investigate and help DOJ prosecute, but if they want to do "raids" or fear for violence - they must coordinate with local police or US Marshals.

10 posted on 06/03/2023 8:52:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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Was it created by Congress? If so, it will take an act of Congress to dissolve it. But the president can order a reduction in force with permanent layoffs.


11 posted on 06/03/2023 8:54:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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I agree. Barry Soetoro sent the FBI to hell. It needs to go away. It’s now owned by the fascist communists. Hijacked by the Dung Beetle Party.


12 posted on 06/03/2023 9:19:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (JaySix - The attack that shook the foundations of Commie Liberal "democrazy". -The Far Left "media".)
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without something like the FBI, there is no body to investigate and file federal cases against those breaking federal law


13 posted on 06/03/2023 10:13:21 PM PDT by sten (uired to )
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The patriot act was a militarization of Leos… a posse comitatus work around.. This is the natural progression. J6 gave them more power than ever… the charges levied against these people are incredibly and inhumanely unjust. Be it a mobocracy or corruptocracy we live in… you can be sure… you are next.
The charges are definitely Hitler and Mao level death sentences to them and to our children and grandchildren.
The American experiment is over, unless there is a revival to reset basic human kindness and forgiveness. Only Christ camping… He shouldn’t, we don’t deserve it… but that is just His Grace.


14 posted on 06/04/2023 4:03:27 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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So what you are really saying is that we need a federal coordination function to facilitate state-to-state law enforcement. Great, federal authorities can handle the paperwork, they can facilitate whatever local law enforcement needs to do, and the feds don’t need guns, their own arrest powers, training academy, or anything else to do it, including tanks, which I bet is on the FBI’s wish list.


15 posted on 06/04/2023 4:48:28 AM PDT by TimSkalaBim
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To: SeekAndFind

Flush the alphabet soup!


16 posted on 06/04/2023 7:19:33 AM PDT by Theophilus (flush the alphabet soup!)
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The FBI budget is supposedly around 9 billion with 35,000 or so employees they deign to admit having. Can’t really imagine anything happening to it at this point. That’s a 9 billion dollar dug in tick that knows a bunch of dirty laundry with lots of folks willing to go to the mat to keep it dug in and sucking. It was probably too late 75+ years ago to do anything about any of the alphabet agencies, which basically function as guardians of the bureaucratic establishment empire in DC in order to keep themselves and their families fed and living well for generations.

Freegards


17 posted on 06/04/2023 7:28:04 AM PDT by Ransomed
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We’re living in a post-constitutional America.

92.1 % of D.C. are democrats that ain’t no coincidence Moe.


18 posted on 06/04/2023 9:42:38 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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That was the excuse. But we already had the Marshals. Hoover had lots of great excuses, but really he just wanted to be powerful, and eventually he used his power to blackmail politicians, so he died in office. And the FBI still primarily gathers blackmail information to make sure nobody ever cuts their budget.

They should end. They will not.


19 posted on 06/04/2023 9:46:17 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Guns are their least powerful weapon. Though it was very important to Hoover that they have them, he even sacrificed a few of his own men to make it happen. It’s the “investigate” that gives them all their power. All those secret files.


20 posted on 06/04/2023 9:48:25 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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