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Big Data Poll – President Trump Crushing Governor DeSantis by 20 Points in Florida After Home State Campaign Launch
The Last Refuge ^ | June 3, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 06/03/2023 7:42:02 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: SoConPubbie
Note to Pres. Trump: If you get a moment, sir...

Someone asked AI to make a Donald Trump fried chicken commercial

I miss good fried chicken.

41 posted on 06/04/2023 4:52:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021/02/small-donors-dominated-2020-will-that-change-in-midterms/

“...About $378.1 million — nearly half — of Trump’s 2020 donations came from small individual contributions...”


42 posted on 06/04/2023 4:54:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla
“...About $378.1 million — nearly half — of Trump’s 2020 donations came from small individual contributions...”

Yes, and the other half was from big money donors, like Disney and Anheuser-Busch.

Nothing disputes what I posted.

43 posted on 06/04/2023 4:57:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

He didn’t take it like any other candidate.

If he did, he’d be Deep State’s, wouldn’t he.

That’s the problem.

Trump can’t be bought.


44 posted on 06/04/2023 5:03:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla
If he did, he’d be Deep State’s, wouldn’t he. That’s the problem. Trump can’t be bought.

This is what I mean by the creepy Trump cultists just make stuff up.

All DeSantis donors are former Trump donors.

Trump said it was a big mistake for DeSantis to take on Disney. Disney was Trump's #3 largest donor in 2020 with over $10 million donated to Trump.

Trump Jr said we should not boycott Anheuser-Busch because most of their campaign contributions go to the GOP.

That sounds like bought and paid for.

45 posted on 06/04/2023 5:32:27 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Two problems - what am I missing here?

(1) The aggregate poll shows Trump up 20% against his closest rival, DeSantis.

However, the highly detailed city-county poll map shows Trump at +20 in just ONE location - north Broward County.

Is the poll map counting individual votes - or percentage?

(2) The Poll Data Link claims a 1,236 sample size for the Florida map.

However, the Crosstabs link says just 507 Republicans were in the sample.

Someone needs to tell Sundance the data in this poll is a complete mess!

46 posted on 06/04/2023 5:56:47 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: backpacker_c

It’s hysterical watching you go around accusing everyone of “lying” in every post, even though they are the ones actually posting links to back up their claims, when all you ever have is Trump-like bluster and insults.

Here’s another perfect example, you posting over and over in this thread that DeSantis is run by hedge funds, even though you have no proof, when everyone who knows anything about Trump knows his big campaign money comes from hedge funds, and woke globalist corporations like Disney:

Just look at the top donor for his 2016 campaign:

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contributors?id=N00023864

Top Contributors, federal election data for Donald Trump, 2016 cycle

1. Renaissance Technologies

Renaissance Technologies LLC, also known as RenTech or RenTec, is an American hedge fund based in East Setauket, New York, on Long Island, which specializes in systematic trading using quantitative models derived from mathematical and statistical analysis.


47 posted on 06/04/2023 6:04:04 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: Golden Eagle

Go Rubio - um, er, DeSan...you know, the thing....

Riiight?


48 posted on 06/04/2023 6:04:10 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: FLT-bird

Polls, especially for later states, are pointless right now. As all of the also-rans exit the stage, their supporters will come to DeSantis before they ever come to Trump. Trump is either primary voters’ first choice or last choice.


49 posted on 06/04/2023 7:09:26 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: SoConPubbie
Now you know exactly why Florida Governor Ron DeSantis had to launch without any public appearances in his home state, and run away from the state of Florida immediately thereafter.

Now I know why Disney Don's acolytes have to lie.

50 posted on 06/04/2023 8:05:46 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: MountainWalker
As all of the also-rans exit the stage, their supporters will come to DeSantis before they ever come to Trump. Trump is either primary voters’ first choice or last choice.

That's simply not true. Baris polled those voting for other candidates who they would go for if it were just a Trump-DeSantis race. DeSantis doesn't gain any ground on Trump if its just those two. That's just another false narrative being pushed by the DeSantis team.

51 posted on 06/04/2023 4:57:08 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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Then Barris’s polls are just garbage bc that makes zero logical sense.

I’m sure there are a few strange people who support Haley or Pence then Trump and DeSantis last, but there’s simply no way it’s an even distribution. Trump was president for 4 years and people either loved him and his antics or just put up with him over any Democrat. He’s the only candidate like himself in that regard.


52 posted on 06/04/2023 5:23:14 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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Then Barris’s polls are just garbage bc that makes zero logical sense. I’m sure there are a few strange people who support Haley or Pence then Trump and DeSantis last, but there’s simply no way it’s an even distribution. Trump was president for 4 years and people either loved him and his antics or just put up with him over any Democrat. He’s the only candidate like himself in that regard.

No, Baris' polls are the most accurate - not garbage - and they make perfect sense, They're just inconvenient for DeSimps and the narrative they want to push. He specifically asked people who supported various other candidates who they supported if the one they supported were out and/or who they supported in a head to head race. He has the results. Its not his suppositions - unlike the DeSimps who are desperate to believe that without any evidence to back it up because that's the only way their guy could even approach 40% to Trump's 60%.

53 posted on 06/05/2023 2:41:06 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

In some regards it does make sense. If you’re a rino, you’ll probably choose the most conservative guy last, but most people simply do not want an 80 year old baby unless the alternative is a communist. It’s probably a trash poll.


54 posted on 06/05/2023 4:46:24 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker

LOL! No. Baris has been the most accurate pollster since 2014. The voters just don’t like/trust the guy backed by the Establishment. Also, why go with the cover band when the real band is still around and as good as ever? The poll is accurate. DeSantis just isn’t that popular.


55 posted on 06/05/2023 6:32:58 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

I think most people who’d vote for Haley or Scott would have a soft spot for Trump personnel like Anthony Fauci and Christopher Wray or a guy with a “big heart” on immigration.


56 posted on 06/05/2023 7:02:17 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker

What Baris’ polling showed was that Vivek’s supporters overwhelmingly go to Trump and surprisingly, the same is true of Pence supporters.


57 posted on 06/05/2023 7:33:48 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Rasmussen tells a different story.

3* If the choice for the Republican nomination were between former President Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, who would you vote for?

34% Donald Trump

33% Ron DeSantis

25% Some other candidate

9% Not sure

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/toplines_2_desantis_2024_may_30_june_1_2023

While it make some sense for all the RINOs to eventually line up behind the loudmouth RINO as you suggested, the reality is anyone who prefers one of the other candidates is going to eventually choose the guy who doesn’t comport himself like a juvenile when forced to make a decision.


58 posted on 06/05/2023 8:27:08 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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Rasmussen tells a different story. 3* If the choice for the Republican nomination were between former President Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, who would you vote for? 34% Donald Trump 33% Ron DeSantis 25% Some other candidate 9% Not sure https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/toplines_2_desantis_2024_may_30_june_1_2023 While it make some sense for all the RINOs to eventually line up behind the loudmouth RINO as you suggested, the reality is anyone who prefers one of the other candidates is going to eventually choose the guy who doesn’t comport himself like a juvenile when forced to make a decision.

What Rasmussen's polls shows is precisely what you denied earlier....ie that if the other candidates drop out and its a head to head matchup, the two will split their support evenly. Ultimately, it doesn't matter because Trump is already at nearly 60% as is. Most Right leaning voters don't want to vote for a stiff representative of the RINO Establishment when they have an alternative they were happy with the first time.

59 posted on 06/05/2023 8:58:09 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

That’s not splitting evenly. With other candidates in the race, DeSantis’s vote share is much lower. And, as these things go in the primary, the momentum from picking up votes from departed candidates tends to have inertia.

If Trump were any other person, I think you would be right and he would dominate the RINO lane to victory. But given his defective personality replete with juvenile outbursts, his broken promises andu advanced age, odds are pretty decent that we’ll finally get conservative candidate for president.


60 posted on 06/05/2023 1:33:06 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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