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Big Data Poll – President Trump Crushing Governor DeSantis by 20 Points in Florida After Home State Campaign Launch
The Last Refuge ^ | June 3, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 06/03/2023 7:42:02 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: MountainWalker

Given DeSantis is stiff and robotic, given that he is completely beholden to the RINO Establishment/Donor class for his support, given that he has shown himself to be both dishonest as well as disloyal, I can’t see him even coming close to Trump in the Republican primary. Trump is already at 60% and his vote share will only grow as some of the other candidates drop out. There is simply no path for DeSantis to win short of a complete meltdown by Trump.


61 posted on 06/05/2023 4:26:47 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

I hear that claptrap from Trump cultists a lot. Ironically, DeSantis’s record of conservative governance is basically perfect so the criticism is always vague.

Trump, on the other hand, can’t stop stepping on his own Johnson with his atrocious personnel picks, and he shows no loyalty to the rare good ones like McEnany. He also hung his J6 supporters out to dry when he could have protected them with a stroke of the pen. Trump demands loyalty but only shows loyalty to himself or whatever way the winds are blowing, like with his “big heart” about the “Dreamers” or his idiotic idea to empty our prisons.

As I’ve said before, I don’t know why the communists don’t throw their support behind him. They can dupe him into getting 40-50% of what they want by just flattering him, and fools like you will stick by him no matter what.


62 posted on 06/05/2023 5:12:59 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker
I hear that claptrap from Trump cultists a lot. Ironically, DeSantis’s record of conservative governance is basically perfect so the criticism is always vague.

Its OK, I hear the whining about Trump from DeSimps a lot too.

Trump, on the other hand, can’t stop stepping on his own Johnson with his atrocious personnel picks, and he shows no loyalty to the rare good ones like McEnany.

McEneny was a NeverTrumper who decided to advance her own career by becoming press secretary. She did a good job at that no doubt. She also works for Fox now who everybody knows is all in for DeSantis. So she has career reasons for making the choice she did. I don't begrudge her that, but spare me any claims that Trump is somehow being "disloyal" to criticize one of his former employees who endorsed the other guy.

He also hung his J6 supporters out to dry when he could have protected them with a stroke of the pen.

No, he could not have. This is another falsehood peddled by the DeSimps. Firstly, he was out of office only 2 weeks later. Secondly, the prosecutions hadn't started yet and many of the political prisoners had not even been targeted yet. Third, remember the Democrats were running Shampeachment II and the Turtle had already threatened to go along with it if he pardoned Snowden or Assange (or Jan 6 protestors?).

Trump demands loyalty but only shows loyalty to himself or whatever way the winds are blowing,

BS DeSimp propaganda.

like with his “big heart” about the “Dreamers” or his idiotic idea to empty our prisons.

It would probably be political suicide to deport a lot of the little kids who were brought in illegally and who then grew up in the US, speak English as a native language or 2nd native language and who are pretty thoroughly Americanized. I can just see the corporate media having a field day trotting out one American looking and sounding young person after another and claiming the President/Republicans are so cruel to deport them etc.

As for letting nonviolent mostly drug offenders who have already spent years in prison out, I tend to think most of them should not have been put in prison for such long terms to begin with.

As I’ve said before, I don’t know why the communists don’t throw their support behind him. They can dupe him into getting 40-50% of what they want by just flattering him, and fools like you will stick by him no matter what.

More BS DeSimp propaganda. The Commies are trying to destroy Trump first and foremost. It ain't because they're getting what they want with him. Its because they're not and they know he is by a mile the biggest threat to them.

63 posted on 06/06/2023 3:15:08 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Golden Eagle
Florida is MAGA country!!!


64 posted on 06/06/2023 3:23:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

That was back when Trump was promising to build a wall he never built.

Nor did he ever fire Fauci.

https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1665799058303188992


65 posted on 06/06/2023 4:42:19 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
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To: FLT-bird

And yet you still can’t find anything about the DeSantis to criticize. Meanwhile, Trump has you so cucked that you’re sitting here justifying prison emptying while we’re in the middle of a record crime wave and trying to push amnesty out the other side of your mouth. You sound like George Bush.

How about this as a public policy: everyone here illegally gets deported. If you can’t make that argument in light of 5 million people (the population of smaller European countries) swamping our border the last 2.5 years you’re a useless chump.

Trump could have issued a blanket pardon on January 7th for all peaceful protesters, but he didn’t. He was backed down by McConnell.

The Communists want Trump as their nominee. First of all, they could probably take him off the campaign trail at any time by putting him in jail. Secondly, they’ve already beaten him with this same stiff.


66 posted on 06/06/2023 5:44:13 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker
And yet you still can’t find anything about the DeSantis to criticize. Meanwhile, Trump has you so cucked that you’re sitting here justifying prison emptying while we’re in the middle of a record crime wave and trying to push amnesty out the other side of your mouth. You sound like George Bush. How about this as a public policy: everyone here illegally gets deported. If you can’t make that argument in light of 5 million people (the population of smaller European countries) swamping our border the last 2.5 years you’re a useless chump. Trump could have issued a blanket pardon on January 7th for all peaceful protesters, but he didn’t. He was backed down by McConnell. The Communists want Trump as their nominee. First of all, they could probably take him off the campaign trail at any time by putting him in jail. Secondly, they’ve already beaten him with this same stiff.

And yet I can. He promised the voters of Florida he would not run for President and would be their governor for 4 years. Now he broke that promise. He also took $10 million from Rupert Murdoch in the form of his book deal in order to run now. I understand that he was not rich and wanted to secure his family's financial future, but he's given up any shot at the White House to do it. By agreeing to be the tool of the RINO Establishment in its quest to stop Trump at all costs, he has permanently alienated enough Right leaning voters that he has no prospect of ever winning the White House now.

He has also surrounded himself with RINO Establishment types.

First he expressed the right idea wrt Ukraine - ie its a territorial dispute and we shouldn't be involved - and then when his political masters in the Establishment indicated they didn't like that answer, he reversed himself a day later.....which shows he will do their bidding. ie No Thanks to him as a candidate then.

But You DeSimps will just keep simping for him nonstop from now until election day no doubt. He has to know he has no chance given how far behind he is. He's just on a kamikaze mission to try to damage Trump.

Nobody on the right thinks the Soros DA's should be releasing violent criminals. Mostly, it was nonviolent drug offenses that shouldn't have gotten such long prison sentences to begin with.

As for anybody sounding like a Bush that would be DeSantis who said the Bushes were his ideal when he was in Congress and who is heavily backed by the Bushes among others. We call him DeJeb for a reason.

Trump couldn't pardon the Jan 6 protestors because the Turtle threatened to vote for Shampeachment II if he did and the Turtle could muster enough RINOs in the Senate to go along with it.

If the Commies want Trump as the nominee, why are they trying so hard to take him out? Why all the corrupt lawfare attempts?

and we both know they didn't beat him in 2020.

67 posted on 06/06/2023 7:53:44 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Trump couldn’t pardon the Jan 6 protestors because the Turtle threatened to vote for Shampeachment II if he did and the Turtle could muster enough RINOs in the Senate to go along with it.
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And there it is! So what about McConnell? People are getting their lives destroyed over HIS protest, and he didn’t protect them when he could have. He could have written the pardon the morning of the 20th and challenged the fraudulent post-presidency impeachment if he wanted to run again. As usual, Trump was looking out for #1 again, but let’s get worked up about DeSantis possibly not finishing his term, which most politicians who run for president are ready to do.

Trump is pushing amnesty, but see here DeSantis is the Bush guy. Ok, pal. If you want to cuck out and throw in with the loudmouth RINO, have at it, but don’t be surprised if a lot of us pass up the opportunity to naturalize millions of illegal aliens because Trump has a “Big Heart” and wants to be loved by the fake news industrial complex.


68 posted on 06/06/2023 9:45:34 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: MountainWalker
And there it is! So what about McConnell? People are getting their lives destroyed over HIS protest, and he didn’t protect them when he could have. He could have written the pardon the morning of the 20th and challenged the fraudulent post-presidency impeachment if he wanted to run again. As usual, Trump was looking out for #1 again, but let’s get worked up about DeSantis possibly not finishing his term, which most politicians who run for president are ready to do. Trump is pushing amnesty, but see here DeSantis is the Bush guy. Ok, pal. If you want to cuck out and throw in with the loudmouth RINO, have at it, but don’t be surprised if a lot of us pass up the opportunity to naturalize millions of illegal aliens because Trump has a “Big Heart” and wants to be loved by the fake news industrial complex.

No, they weren't "getting their lives destroyed" at that point. The vast majority of them were not arrested until later. We did not even know yet that the DOJ would go as far as it did or that the DC Swamp courts would be as corrupt as they turned out to be. He didn't even know who a lot of the people were by name who would later be charged. You're trying to blame him for things he could not have known and did not control.

DeSantis is whoring for the war in Ukraine now that his masters told him to....his masters who include the Bushes. It was he who said the Bushes were his role models. If you want to simp for DeJeb, that's your business but don't expect the rest of us to go along with it. Trump is the only POTUS thus far who has shown a real willingness to close the border and who managed to cut the flood to a trickle despite fierce opposition from the Democrat controlled House.

69 posted on 06/06/2023 11:02:19 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

I know they weren’t YET. So is it Trump’s disqualified because he was too stupid to predict the most predictable next move of the communists or because he was only seeking to protect his political future? Both are bad but the first explanation is worse. Anyone who ever asks himself, “would the communists really go there?” and answers no, they’re not fit for the job, sorry.

Speaking of which, do you really think they wouldn’t take Trump off the campaign trail to put him in jail? They’re timing them all so that he’s jailed once he’s locked in on the ticket, and they have multiple suits lined up just in case one or more falter. They didn’t sit on their hands for 2-3 years because they weren’t that motivated to incarcerate him. That is their plan, chump.


70 posted on 06/06/2023 1:43:12 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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