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National security experts: War in Ukraine is an ‘unmitigated disaster’
Responsible Statecraft ^ | Blaise Malley | Blaise Malley

Posted on 05/18/2023 9:12:47 PM PDT by Kazan

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1 posted on 05/18/2023 9:12:47 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Since when have the current admin leaders acted in US & citizen interest?


2 posted on 05/18/2023 9:15:45 PM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: Kazan
as nuclear powers creep ever closer toward open war

Anybody notice how when RATs are in power, the world teeters ever closer to the precipice? Anybody notice how when the world teeters ever closer to the precipice that liberals are too freaking stupid and obtuse to recognize they are the problem?

They are weak. And stupid. And weakness always invites aggression.

3 posted on 05/18/2023 9:25:32 PM PDT by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will.." )
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To: Kazan

A stinking pile of the usual crap.


4 posted on 05/18/2023 9:32:34 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Kazan

Ambassador Jack Matlock was and is a class act for sure. Many others that worked out of our embassy in Moscow during the last days of the Cold War seem to hold the same views for some damned reason. But what the hell do we know? We are Putinistas.


5 posted on 05/18/2023 9:39:43 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: Kazan

Only 14 signatories to that letter?
Well, letters signed by experts are no longer in vogue after the latest episode of The 51 Stooges.


6 posted on 05/18/2023 9:47:12 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: Williams
A stinking pile of the usual crap.

Seriously, tell us how you REALLY feel!


7 posted on 05/18/2023 9:48:55 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: LouAvul

BINGO


8 posted on 05/18/2023 10:15:22 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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smh.

Did Baker not make the promise?
You are ok with The Warsaw Pact across the border in Mexico?


9 posted on 05/18/2023 10:17:39 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: Kazan

Nice source you have there,”Responsible Statecraft”

Here is another article from them “How Donald Trump is Saving the Occupation by Dismantling the First Amendment”
“DECEMBER 12, 2019
Written by
Lara Friedman
What does an antisemitism spewing, Nazi dog-whistling President give his favorite Jewish and Christian zealots for the holidays, after already giving them Jerusalem, settlements, the Golan Heights, the murder of the two-state solution, and the delegitimization of Palestinian national claims, identity, and aspirations?

An Israel exception to the First Amendment, of course.

That’s what Trump’s Executive Order on Combating Antisemitism is, no matter how the White House and credulous, lazy, or dishonest pundits try to sell it.”
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2019/12/12/how-donald-trump-is-saving-the-occupation-by-dismantling-the-first-amendment/


10 posted on 05/18/2023 10:27:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: LouAvul

One of the most stupid leftist ideas is that they can plan the World to be as Utopian as they wish, and that know enough to do it.


11 posted on 05/18/2023 10:28:02 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Excellent. The linked letter is a must read.

“Why did the U.S. persist in expanding NATO despite such warnings? Profit from weapons sales was a major factor. Facing opposition to NATO expansion, a group of neoconservatives and top executives of U.S. weapons manufacturers formed the U.S. Committee to Expand NATO. Between 1996 and 1998, the largest arms manufacturers spent $51 million ($94 million today) on lobbying and millions more on campaign contributions. With this largesse, NATO expansion quickly became a done deal, after which U.S. weapons manufacturers sold billions of dollars of weapons to the new NATO members.

So far, the U.S. has sent $30 billion worth of military gear and weapons to Ukraine, with total aid to Ukraine exceeding $100 billion. War, it’s been said, is a racket, one that is highly profitable for a select few.”


12 posted on 05/18/2023 10:46:29 PM PDT by kabar
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I bet Raytheon is pissed that we sent the Patriot systems over to Ukraine.

Garland Nixon explains why.

Patriot missile system disaster

13 posted on 05/18/2023 11:02:04 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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Ummm.... what kind of double-speak is this? Agree that Putin's invasion was illegal and wrong... bu then compare it to supposed "serial invasions of Russia"??? What invasions?

While condemning Vladimir Putin’s “criminal invasion and occupation,” the letter, which notes the serial invasions of Russia by foreign adversaries, encourages readers to understand the war “through Russia’s eyes.”

14 posted on 05/18/2023 11:05:43 PM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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“The U.S. Should Be a Force for Peace in the World,”

We are

This is a proxy war to distract Russia and deplete their logistics to the point they cannot ally with China when we go to war with them...


15 posted on 05/19/2023 12:10:54 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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compare it to supposed "serial invasions of Russia"??? What invasions?
Russian paranoia has deep roots.
16 posted on 05/19/2023 12:34:57 AM PDT by jdege
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To: Karl Spooner
Agreed. That video of 32 patriot missile launches - followed by the explosion as the Kinzhal hit, was extraordinary.

Simplicius gives an in-depth analysis here

17 posted on 05/19/2023 12:37:13 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: TheBattman

It’s almost like reading an open letter in the 1990s titled “Why the Abuse Excuse is right, and conservative values aren’t.”

NATO policy from day one has been, if you ask to join NATO and ALL the existing members of the alliance agree AND the accessor countries satisfy the qualifications like not being actively at war, there’s no reason to block the process.

Russia’s CSTO has a different policy.

We don’t tell Russia who can and can’t be in CSTO, Russia can take a running jump if it thinks it can tell NATO which countries can be in NATO.

Russia, like Ukraine and Belarus, was guaranteed the right to decide its own defense strategy.

Russia, unlike the other SSRs, wanted the USSR legacy right to invade other countries.

Because Russia wanted the Stalinist conquest rights, other countries wanted to join NATO.

By invading Crimea, Chechnya (twice), Georgia once, and Ukraine, Putin has proved we were right to allow NATO to expand.

Irrespective of the pledge Baker made to Gorbachev.

Gorbachev would not have invaded Crimea, Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine.

Putin is not Gorbachev.


18 posted on 05/19/2023 12:44:27 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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