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UKRAINE’S SUICIDAL OFFENSIVE IS BLEEDING OUT WHILE THE CIA LOSES ITS MIND
Sonar 21 ^ | 17 May 2023 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 05/17/2023 8:24:16 PM PDT by Kazan

Over the last week Ukrainian officials have been insisting that the long-promised counter offensive is delayed until the West can pony up more tanks, ammunition, artillery and other weapons. But, there has been a noticeable uptick in Ukrainian attacks on Russian positions. These assaults apparently were carried out as a symbolic gesture to appease Western demands that Ukraine do something to the Russians.

You can tell that the Ukrainian attacks have been a bust by the very subdued reporting of the activity in the Western press. John Helmer of Dances With Bears provides a grim summary of the effort:

On May 12, in the first day of their scheme, 1,725 Ukrainian men were killed on the Donbass front. This is the worst day’s military casualty rate since the US coup in Kiev launched the war in February 2014.

According to the Financial Times, this killing didn’t happen. Instead, the headline reads: “Ukrainian counter-offensive takes shape with the first gains around Bakhmut.” The Washington Post announced likewise: “How Ukrainian forces denied Russia victory in Bakhmut by Victory Day”. The New York Times repeated: “Ukraine’s Advances Near Bakhmut Expose Rifts in Russian Forces”. According to this propaganda, these successes were bloodless on the Ukrainian side.

A NATO forces veteran observes: “An entire regiment has been destroyed. This is cynical trading in flesh.

In fact, what happened on the battlefield was dozens of Ukrainian troop movements in different directions along a front of more than ninety kilometres.

According to the NATO veteran, “this is more propaganda offensive than real offensive. They scraped together enough gear, ammunition and manpower to make a barely audible tactical bang. It’s a punch with nothing behind it. Those guys are already dead. This isn’t even wishful thinking. It’s cynical trading in flesh.”

Helmer’s report coincides with recent postings on Ukrainian Telegram channels of row after row of fresh graves in three Ukrainian cities — Khmelnytskyi, Cherkassy and Transcarpathia. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then these video clips are worth a library of books.

https://youtu.be/1hTT4uYWqH0

https://youtu.be/3KW4Nz-Od9k

https://youtu.be/-pwG3yB-4QY

At some point, Ukraine is going to run out of men to bury. Russia, if you have been paying attention, has been lashing military and logistic targets throughout Ukraine with an unrelenting barrage of missiles and bombs for the past ten days and shows no sign of easing off.

In tandem with Russia’s shellacking of the Ukrainian military, the ham handed CIA allegedly put out a recruiting video worthy of Monty Python. Only one problem. The CIA apparently is dead-ass serious about trying to convince some sad Russians to abandon the clean subways of Moscow for the shit-covered streets of San Francisco.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ciafail; liberalworldorder; putinbot; russia; ukraine
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
We’re sick and tired of wars fought for greedy internationalists

Indeed.

21 posted on 05/17/2023 10:17:35 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I have said quite often that the more of these former Communists and Nazis kill each other the better off the world is, hopefully they will both eventually run out of blood.


22 posted on 05/17/2023 10:46:00 PM PDT by 5th MEB
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To: Williams

“You will know the Putinistas by their crazy comments.”

Give Nuland, Blinkin, Sullivan, and Pedo Joe my best.


23 posted on 05/17/2023 10:52:22 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: DoughtyOne
There are plenty backing Russia. You haven't paying attention here.

Russia and American conservatives have a common enemy -- the liberal world order, which is nothing more than American imperialism that bullies the rest of the world in order to enrich our political class, their financial backers and the defense industry while endangering, in this case, the rest of us by getting us involved in proxy war with Russia.

You neocons are either liars or ignorant.

In the event you're the latter. This sums up exactly what has happened in Ukraine and why the political establishment tried to frame Trump:

Durham proved a vast conspiracy to deceive voters about Trump and Russia, but won't indict anyone, so media can bury the story

Mark Wauck, a retired FBI special agent: From this perspective we can see that the Russia Hoax play two roles. On the one hand, it would help put Hillary—an indifferent campaigner and shrewish personal presence at best—over the top. But the claim of Russian interference in a presidential election could gin up righteous outrage among the American public and lend support for the coming war with Russia. In the event, of course, Hillary lost. The Russia Hoax ended up being used by the Neocons mostly to tie Trump’s hands on foreign policy with regard to Russia. A Hillary regime might have seen a sanctions war to the hilt, such as we now see, before Putin had prepared Russia for that eventuality. Trump’s presidency, despite his own sanctions regime, put that plan on hold—thus the undying Neocon hatred for Trump.

The American Thinker's Thomas Lifson: So, here we are, engaged in a proxy war with Russia, holding the world’s largest nuclear arsenal. Putin is in a war that he can’t afford to lose, and he is forced into China’s embrace, triggering a geostrategic realignment whose consequences are already nearly catastrophic, and risking a nuclear war if Putin gets desperate.

24 posted on 05/17/2023 11:08:32 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I’m openly rooting for Russia so the greedy morons that started this war suffer a humiliating defeat and, then maybe, globalism will die and an American First foreign policy will take its place.


25 posted on 05/17/2023 11:10:07 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Williams
You’re disgraceful.

Not sure which is more stupid, the headline or the article.

Perhaps its more productive to point out what the article got wrong?

26 posted on 05/17/2023 11:14:41 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Kazan

Russia and American conservatives have a common enemy — the liberal world order,

Except “conservative” countries dont invade others for land grabs. And the Ukes appear to rather live under a “liberal world order” than what Russia has to offer. Because they know what Russia has delivered to them in the past and what they are doing to them now. “Conservative” countries would respect their wishes.


27 posted on 05/17/2023 11:27:57 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: AndyTheBear

For about 440 days now this Larry Johnson comes out about an article per week that all say the same thing “It’s all over now. Russia has won and all that is left is to mop things up.”

It is hard for me to understand how the brains of people who have kept reading this for 440+ days straight and still think this guy’s nonsense is valuable enough to post function.


28 posted on 05/18/2023 1:22:50 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Jeff Chandler; little jeremiah

Heads up, icymi


29 posted on 05/18/2023 2:49:22 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: Williams

Never trusted Johnson and Helmers’ use of the word “scheme” instead of “plan” shows an anti-Ukraine bias right there.

Kagan has the letter K at the start of his name. So does KGB. Coincidence or not. You decide.


30 posted on 05/18/2023 2:58:27 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Williams

Instead of an assertion lacking comments as a basis, how about you actually point out what is wrong?

Both Ukraine and Russia are bad actors, there is no win in this fight, best anyone can hope for is politically both lose with the least amount of deaths in-between.

As for the Ukraine supporters, when will you start asking why this is not already over? much of the LSM reporting if believed would have had this war over and Russia crushed already if it were true, learn to read the propaganda from both sides.

Here is my take, Russia is hurting but not enough to stop, Russia has always been willing the through bodies to a solution. Ukraine is hurting more but thanks to western support they can keep sending there men into the meatgrinder and test our weapons systems for us.

Truly a horrible situation for both sides! The western leaders supporting this war are worse than both Russia and Ukraine, they are using others misery and suffering for some sort of self-serving motive and gain.


31 posted on 05/18/2023 4:25:14 AM PDT by Skwor
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To: Kazan

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32 posted on 05/18/2023 4:57:46 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: Krosan

Add Macgregor and Ritter to that list, their predictions are spot on like Russian mod numbers on himars and bradleys destroyed.
If I want a laughter those are my go tos along with kazan posts
Bakmut has fallen….. well almost meanwhile what’s that on our flanks…


33 posted on 05/18/2023 5:03:08 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: Kazan

Larry Johnson lives in his own World.


34 posted on 05/18/2023 5:03:17 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Why does the pro-Russia crowd always make strange statements?


35 posted on 05/18/2023 5:05:06 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Kazan

“Sonar 21” is my favorite Soviet, uh, i mean russkie, propaganda website ... your posts make it so much easier for me to keep up with their most important propaganda, saving me time from having to plow through the drossy parts myself ...


36 posted on 05/18/2023 5:21:22 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: Kazan
It reminds me of the billions thrown at A’stan...with the worst possible result.

You won't convince me that there's an honest effort on Ukraine’s part to win

37 posted on 05/18/2023 5:27:23 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: Kazan

The salients are reduced. The Russians are dead

Russians in the tree lines are being steadily killed. If they leave the trench to piss they get killed


38 posted on 05/18/2023 5:31:50 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: SMARTY

It’s ok. You don’t matter


39 posted on 05/18/2023 5:34:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: popdonnelly

And how do you know more than Larry Johnson about this war? By posting on FR?


40 posted on 05/18/2023 5:42:20 AM PDT by dforest
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