Posted on 05/15/2023 9:14:43 AM PDT by conservative98
SARASOTA, Fla. (FLV) – A reporter asked Gov. Ron DeSantis whether he believes that former President Donald Trump lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden due to “fraud.”
The reporter noted comments from DeSantis over the weekend in Iowa where he urged Republicans reject a “culture of losing.”
“Do you acknowledge that Trump lost and there wasn’t all this fraud that he talks about?” the reporter asked DeSantis.
“Well, I look at the last however many election cycles: 2018, we lost the House […] We lost the Senate in 2020, Biden becomes president and has done a huge amount of damage,” he said. “Very unpopular in 2022, and we were supposed to have this big red wave.”
“Other than, like, Florida and Iowa, I didn’t see a red wave across this country,” DeSantis continued. “I think the party has developed a culture of losing. I think that there’s not accountability.”
He pointed to his accomplishments and electoral success in Florida in 2022, winning by nearly 20 points.
“You can sit there and talk about cable news, social media, all these other things that people are fixated on. And for me, it’s like, OK, what’s that true north?” he said. “You obviously got to win otherwise you don’t get a ticket to the dance. But once you do that, how are you going to be able to actually bring about big change to make people’s lives better?”
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“It’s obvious that when debating a point, someone resorts to grammar observations and insults to demean your arguments then they’ve lost the debate and offer nothing.”
It is not resorting to grammar observations to point out that the poster was LYING when he said that Trump “harped” on the stolen election now, instead of using the correct term “mention” as he does. Pointing out the use of a deceptive word to further a lie is not grammar.
And, either you are also colluding with his lie, or too stupid to know the difference.
Deep staters don’t take on Disney.
If he’s such a deep stater then why did trump endorse him?
Trump talks about the “stolen or rigged” election nearly every time he give a speech. That’s what I call harping on it,
Talk about over the top, saying my argument is a potential lie when I don’t use the “correct” word, harp vs mention.
Taken directly from the Oxford Dictionary.
talk or write persistently and tediously on (a particular topic).
“I don’t want to harp on about the past”
Perhaps you should make use of the dictionary.
Fact is the 2020 election was stolen and if we don’t stay vigilant, we will have the same results and the country will be lost. So i say, keep reminding all the stupid people out there that forgot and never stop!
“talk or write persistently and tediously on (a particular topic).
“I don’t want to harp on about the past”
Perhaps you should make use of the dictionary.”
Perhaps you should read your own posted definition. It says, to repeat, to “talk or write persistently and tediously on a particular topic.”
In a given speech or talk, Trump mentions it, sometimes with with few sentences. In a ninty minute speach, a few minutes.
That is not a persistently and certainly not tedious. The Russian hoax by the MSM and democrat politicians is a good example of persistent and tedious.
And yes, it is good to harp on certain things. It is normally called warnings, a technique used by all societies throughout all history.
Wordsmithing is not your strong suit especially when debating an issue
“Wordsmithing is not your strong suit especially when debating an issue”
Okay, genius, tell me wherein I am wrong. Then, and only then, can you can tell me wordsmithing is not my strong suite.
Otherwise, STFU.
The small try to diminish the large rather than working to better themselves because it takes less effort and risk. I try to feel pity for people who are cursed with the kind of envy you have of President Trump but I know your type. You could have been the starting quarterback and thrown the football over that mountain if only you had been the son of the coach instead of that other kid who was the star.
The beauty of FR when debating someone who responds with insults is they prove your point by their actions you don’t have to do anything.
Thanks
"OK. The old man told me to take any rug in the house."
I do. They think DeSanctus is an easy mark. Which is true.
Just wait for a national election when they excoriate Ron DeSantis for his time teaching at Darlington High School in Rome, GA. The Main Stream Media are saving this back but they will have a field day against DeSantis at just the right time.
The two are not mutually exclusive. People need to know the election was stolen. Fixing the system so that it never happens again is the most important challenge we face. And whether a candidate acknowledges the problem or pretends it doesn’t exist, matters more than any other position he has. But you don’t want to talk about it.
How do you expect to fix the problem if you don’t want to talk about it? It makes no sense. You’ve offered some ideas about fixing the problem, but I had to coax them out of you.
You don’t even want to talk about them because talking about them would require talking about the problem itself. Is that any better than people who “harp” about the problem and offer no solutions? I don’t think so.
You should be aware that the Republicans in Georgia only go back one generation. Those roots are not very deep. A vast number of our so called Republicans became so as a quick way to get ahead of their Democrat opponents.
My former Congressman, Newt Gingrich, was from Pennsylvania and settled here when his step-father was transferred to Fort Benning, Georgia while serving with the US Army. When Gingrich was elected to Congress in 1974, he was one of two Republican Congressmen in the delegation.
The first Georgia Republican Governors since The Civil War Reconstruction, Sonny Perdue and Nathan Deal, were both former Democrats. They were basically old school Blue Dog Democrats who flipped over for political gain. Now with GA trending blue again, the worst in these GOP critters is coming out.
Florida is sort of the same way, the election in 2022 resulted in the first time since reconstruction that a Democrat has not held a statewide office.
If DeSantis finishes his 2nd term, that would make 4 straight 2 term Governors that have been Republican or 32 straight years of Republican Governors in Florida.
And DeSantis, being a Republican politician for decades was and is in a position to do something about it.
Let's hear what he has proposed in the past, is proposing now and has planned for the future.
Nothing is not an acceptable answer.
It’s like you’re trying to put in a quarterback who throws more interceptions than completions lately and projecting my pointing that out as jealousy that I’m not on the roster. It’s incredibly stupid.
No, I’m merely highlighting the obvious envy you have for Donald Trump that was evidenced your opening comment that he would be nothing if not for his inheritance.
I’ll put the same question to you that I’ve posed to others here suffering from TDS.
What is it that you hated about President Trump’s time in office?
Was it the peace or the prosperity?
Maybe it was the large tax cuts that massively spurred the economy?
Was it that he prodded all the euro-trash chiselers into finally paying something to defend their worthless hides?
Perhaps you would have been happiest if he had started a war or entangled the U.S. in some other blood-letting?
How about repealing and rolling back more damaging regulations and red-tape than any modern President?
The only other thing I can think of is the energy independence that was heading towards energy dominance. Was that it?
Or is it that you simply despise Donald Trump the man, envy or no?
I overall think Trump was a very good president, certainly the best one we’ve had in a while. He had the potential to be one of the top five in history, but he shot himself in the foot one too many times and that’s why he’s eligible to run again.
Unlike you, I don’t get an obsessive emotional attachment to politicians (employees). I’m as loyal to Trump as he was his supporters on January 7th. He knew what was coming or should have and issued a blanket pardon to protect all of the non-violent protesters from these Soviet-style show trials. But, he didn’t. Whether he was too stupid to see around the corner or whether he was just thinking of protecting himself from an impeachment conviction and the possibility of running for president again, I’m not sure.
Ha! Try not to throw your chain with all that backpedaling!
So what you’re saying is that Trump the amiable dunce (where have we heard that one before), who should have amounted to nothing more than a Times Square loudmouth, ought to have seen the future and pardoned hundreds of people who had not been identified let alone arrested on January 7.
Thanks, though, for acknowledging that the man who delivered more for conservatives than anyone since President Reagan is “the best one we’ve had in a while”.
As far as shooting himself in the foot, it doesn’t take that or even a stubbed toe to lose the game when all the officials, the TV crew, and more than half of your own team are playing for the other side.
It was widely discussed that Trump might preemptively issue a blanket pardon for himself for crimes to be named later after the communists spent 4 years trying to lock up anyone associated with him. Like I said, he was either a moron to not see what was coming for the J6 protestors or more than likely he was backed down by McConnell under threat of impeachment conviction.
Desantis is the most conservative candidate in this race, so he has my vote. All the attacks on him by you Rinos can’t even point to a single blemish on his record. That’s why all your attacks are nonspecific. He’s been putting up win after win in Florida and you were all cheering until it appeared that he was going to jump into the race against your little precious.
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