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Russia acknowledges retreat north of Bakhmut, Wagner boss calls it a 'rout'
Reuters ^ | May 12, 2023 | Olena Harmash and Ivan Lyubysh-Kirdey

Posted on 05/12/2023 4:04:42 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: 7thOF7th; Kazan; kiryandil; JonPreston; BobL; wardaddy

Kazan, kiryat, any comments from the Kremlin?


21 posted on 05/12/2023 11:52:49 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Kazan

The Ukrainians aren’t invaders. The Russians are the invaders.


22 posted on 05/13/2023 1:57:54 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: dennisw

Prigozhin has a pretty loose tongue. If I were Putin, I’d have it cut out.


23 posted on 05/13/2023 2:40:27 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: 7thOF7th

But just wait until the ground freezes !!!!111


24 posted on 05/13/2023 2:40:32 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Cronos

Stop. I’ve repeatedly told you not to ping me to threads I’m not participating in, yet you ignore the Rules.


25 posted on 05/13/2023 5:22:04 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Cronos; Admin Moderator

“Kazan, kiryat, any comments from the Kremlin?”

Any particular reason you need to name-call when pinging people who are not part of your threads and who don’t want to be pinged?


26 posted on 05/13/2023 7:17:52 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Fido969

Russkies still control 80% of Bakhmut.


Which is endanger of being encircles due to the 72nd & 200th brigades on either flank running away.


27 posted on 05/13/2023 8:19:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Timber Rattler
Ukraine Receiving Storm Shadow Cruise Missiles + the Propaganda Storm around Bakhmut

Update on the conflict in Ukraine for May 13, 2023:

- Russian media space panics over false claims of Ukraine’s offensive beginning;

- The trading of territory in Bakhmut is typical of urban combat operations and does not indicate a “momentum shift” until the vector sum of the fighting begins favoring Ukraine rather than Russian forces;

- Additional evidence has surfaced that Ukraine is using some of its best military hardware in and around Bakhmut including German-made self-propelled howitzers, indicating that Russian plans to draw in and destroy Ukraine’s best troops and equipment is working;

- Ahead of Ukraine’s offensive, both sides are conducting long-range strikes. For Russia it is about disrupting Ukraine’s offensive potential. For Ukraine it is about shaping the psychological and media landscape of the conflict;

- The Storm Shadow cruise missile is air-launched and for targets deep inside Russian territory to be under threat, Ukrainian warplanes must travel dangerously close ot the line of contact and expose themselves to Russian air defenses. The missiles themselves must circumvent Russian air defense systems and electronic warfare measures;

- The terrain mapping feature most likely will require intelligence sharing between Ukraine and the US-UK in order to make the missile’s use most effective;

- While Storm Shadow missiles and other long-range weapons Ukraine may have will inevitably make it through to their targets these are not capabilities Russia doesn’t already have and in greater abundance. If these are war-winning capabilities, Russia is going to win the war first;

28 posted on 05/13/2023 8:26:27 AM PDT by Kazan
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