Zelensky pretends he's mounting a mighty counter attack that will change the course of the war, but he isn't.
Posted on 05/11/2023 6:37:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
Ukrainian forces says they are conducting “effective counterattacks” in the Bakhmut area, in comments that are in line with claims from the leader of the Russian mercenary group Wagner that Kyiv has recaptured some territory.
Yevgeny Prigozhin on Wednesday accused a Russian brigade of abandoning its position in front-line Bakhmut, allowing Ukraine to seize territory. He has repeatedly accused the defense ministry of failing to give his forces the supplies they need.
Prigozhin also accused Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky of lying, after he remarked that Kyiv still needs “a bit more time” before it launches a much anticipated counteroffensive. “Zelensky is lying,” Prigozhin said on his official social media channels Thursday. “The counteroffensive is in full swing.”
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Propaganda...from Prigozhin himself, on video?
Zelensky pretends he's mounting a mighty counter attack that will change the course of the war, but he isn't.
Well, if it’s a meme then it must be real.
“God is Love.” ~ 1 John 4
Ukraine is working hard to put a brave, heroic face on a bad situation. While the battle over Bakhmut continues to dominate the attention of Western pundits and politicians, the war in Ukraine is raging in other locations, including Zaporozhye, Maryinka, Avdyevka, Petrovskoye and dozens of other cities and hamlets. Russia has ample supplies of men, tanks and ammunition. Ukraine does not. Russia is choosing to fight a war of attrition rather than large scale maneuver. I realize this is frustrating for those arm-chair generals longing for a General Patton to break out of hedge row country and go scampering across France. Apart from the whining complaints from Prigozhin, there is no sign of panic, fear or frustration on the Russian side. The essential question remains — how long can Ukraine hold out?
Ukraine SitRep: Delayed Counteroffensive, Russian Defense Lines, Weapon Efficiency
Ukraine does not have the personnel to sustain a longer war. Nor does the 'west' have any spare weapons that could give the Ukraine a 'decisive advantage'.
Seems to me that your meme works much better for the Ukrainians than the Muscovites right now.
| In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Ukraine says counterattacks effective near Bakhmut, after Wagner chief accuses Russian brigade of fleeing, Timber Rattler wrote: |
Seems to me that your meme works much better for the Ukrainians than the Muscovites right now. |
Only if you follow the propaganda. Biden's handlers support this war and they control the MSM. The other primary source for Ukie propaganda is Davys Denys, the 'Ukrainian pilot'.
The Ukraine is losing and has been losing. It just never stopped long enough to negotiate in order to spare at least one generation of Ukrainian men, because this is NATO's war and they consider Ukrainians as 'expendable' cannon fodder - NATO will grind them all up without hesitation.
Not sure how you can keep on crying "propaganda" when it's Yevgeny Prigozhin himself yelling on his Telegram channel that Muscovite troops in Bakhmut have fled and that Wagner has been flanked.
Propaganda on both sides. I think Prigozhin’s proclamations have been often off kitler - I think he’s spreading fake news as Sun Tzu’s strategy to make it seem like the Russians are retreating, to lure forth the Ukrainians in ‘pursuit’ that doesn’t work out like they thought it would.
Russia or the Ukraine can retreat and attack to save soldiers. WHen the Russians regroup or retreat - it’s misinterpreted as a ‘good sign’ for the Ukrainians, when in fact the Ukrainians are simply outgunned in terms of ammo, missiles and trained troops.
Zelensky said a long time ago, “Frankly we can’t win without state of the art aircraft, and he’s been given older models, too few of them, and doesn’t have the same experienced pilots that Putin has.
The head of the Ukrainian military already explained in an interview in The Economist that he knows what he needs to win, and he knows that NATO doesn’t have it to give him. And he gave examples, saying they’ve given all they can.
Analysts discuss Russia’s capacity to produce ammo - it’s well above that of NATO and NATO can’t ramp up ‘fast enough’.
Tank people analyze the tank gifts Zelensky gets, and notes they are defenseless without adequate air cover.
Russia has the more devastating missiles. The Ukraine really is outgunned so retreating, regrouping, redeploying mean nothing to the outcome of the war. Waving a flag in ‘victory’ over these actions, many of which never even occur in real life, doesn’t mean the direction of the war has changed.
A few days ago I watched a panel discussion and the analysts were chuckling that the Ukrainians were claiming they had the Russians boxed in when in fact the Russians had boxed in the Ukrainians on 3 sides. How many times have the Ukrainians bragged they made Russians retreat (aka ‘they are running’) when they just regroup and attack again?
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