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1 posted on 05/06/2023 6:28:39 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Mentally ill folks, on the streets, used to be rounded up, institutionalized, got treatment, got hot meals, got a roof over their head, were safe, etc.

It is cruel to both the public and mentally ill to let them roam around cities terrorizing people and destroying themselves.


2 posted on 05/06/2023 6:33:27 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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Now his “family” is coming out of the woodwork to demand “justice” i.e., money. Where were they when he was “homeless”? The guy had 42 arrests just in the last few years, he shouldn’t have been out on the streets harassing people.


3 posted on 05/06/2023 6:35:07 AM PDT by euram (allALL)
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Jordan Neely’s death reflects the inhumane consequences of being homeless and crazy, experts say

Edited for clarity/accuracy

4 posted on 05/06/2023 6:40:04 AM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Derelict At Large)
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The rats in rat run cities closed the mental health facilities throwing them in the streets and city jail systems, opened clinics to dish out their meds and expecting these mentally ill people to take their meds. Just ask NYC Mayor deblowjob’s wife where the 800 million earmarked for her mental health initiative went? The rats caused this breakdown and now its a humanitarian crisis they want the federal government to solve by poring our tax dollars down the toilet


6 posted on 05/06/2023 6:48:42 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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Had he received appropriate sentences for his numerous CRIMES, he wouldn't be homeless.
9 posted on 05/06/2023 7:01:18 AM PDT by SC DOC (A)
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Homeless equals crazy.

It’s axiomatic.


10 posted on 05/06/2023 7:12:12 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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First off she is judging the Marine because ‘military bad m’kay.’ He perceived a threat and acted on that threat. I’ll leave it to the Marines to decide if he handled the threat appropriately. I don’t know he intended to kill a homeless person.

Where was Shelly Nortz and her organization? There’s no shortage of homelessness and more being made in Biden’s America every hour. Where was NYC? Where are progressives ever?

Turning untreated mentally ill loose to live on the streets and underbrush puts them, the public, civil society and property at grave risk. That’s why there’s the fear Shelly Nortz blames us for. If a man is having a violent argument with the thin air or inanimate object he becomes a risk factor to those around him.

The Left is working to create more addicts through their legalization efforts in contradiction to their war on big tobacco (notice that’s just become a tax revenue stream) a generation ago. I am a but if a libertarian conservative but I see how cultural tolerance of drug use puts children and others at risk.

My blood boils when a parent or parents are out with young children and they reek of weed. It’s not that rare in Atlanta. It’s child abuse and anyone around your “loud” self is at risk of a contact high. That’s an assault. Unfortunately substance abuse is also a cultural fact of life for the black community here urban and suburban. It’s hard enough living in ATL metro with the ever present exposure. I’d hate to see what happens if legalization came to Georgia. The purplish state will become blue for sure. That’s part of the plan.

11 posted on 05/06/2023 7:12:34 AM PDT by newzjunkey (We need a better Trump than Trump in 2024)
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He was NOT homeless because he was black.

HE was homeless & UNEMPLOYED because he was a mentally deranged person.

He had been behaving badly for a LONG TIME.

He ran into one person who was done with such threats to the public.


12 posted on 05/06/2023 7:20:08 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Shelly Nortz said negative stereotypes about crime stoke an unfair fear.

Yeah, the big problem is negative stereotypes. If only we would look at the positive aspects of crime this whole problem would go away.
15 posted on 05/06/2023 7:25:08 AM PDT by Colinsky
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In America 2.0, criminals are heroes and heroes are criminals.


16 posted on 05/06/2023 7:40:20 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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With each passing day, it should be becoming more clear to us how Germans ended up being so comfortable living with a Nazis government.


17 posted on 05/06/2023 7:50:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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The death of Jordan Neely reveals a need to get these people off the streets and into institutions where they can be cared for, treated and rehabilitated so that they can take their place in a peaceful and productive society.


18 posted on 05/06/2023 7:50:22 AM PDT by elpadre (nd )
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May 5, 2023 - New York Post

Who was Jordan Neely? What we know about the man killed in NYC subway chokehold

https://nypost.com/2023/05/05/who-was-jordan-neely-the-man-killed-in-nyc-subway-chokehold/

EXCERPTS:

“In 2010, he threatened to kill his grandfather, according to sources.”

“Jordan had also racked up numerous arrests, including a 2021 incident in which he hit an older woman on the head and landed himself in jail for over a year. The victim, 67, fell when Jordan punched her on Nov. 12, 2021, and broke her nose, fractured her orbital bone and suffered serious bruising and swelling, charging documents said. Records indicate that Neely was subsequently locked up at Rikers Island from Nov. 17, 2021, through Feb. 9 of this year, and he pleaded guilty to second-degree assault.”

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May 5, 2023 - New York Post

Here’s how Jordan Neely’s fatal subway encounter took a deadly turn with a fatal chokehold

https://nypost.com/2023/05/05/how-jordan-neelys-subway-chokehold-death-unfolded/

EXCERPTS:

The tragic ordeal began when the 30-year-old [Jordan] Neely, dressed in dirty sweatpants and a stained white t-shirt, barged into the northbound subway car after the doors opened at the Second Avenue in lower Manhattan just before 2.30 p.m on Monday.

[Jordan] Neely immediately began tossing garbage around and yelling at frightened riders, prompting many to quickly retreat down the subway car, a witness told The Post.

“He started screaming in an aggressive manner,” the witness, Juan Alberto Vazquez, recalled.

“He said he had no food, he had no drink, that he was tired and doesn’t care if he goes to jail.

“He started screaming all these things, took off his jacket, a black jacket that he had, and threw it on the ground.”

As the train traveled one stop below Houston Street [Daniel] Penny at some point came up behind Neely and took him to the ground in the chokehold, [Juan Alberto] Vazquez said.


19 posted on 05/06/2023 7:54:20 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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Then democrats need to stop encouraging it.


20 posted on 05/06/2023 7:56:47 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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Seems to be more and more scruffy street people babbling to themselves. And all you can do is consider the possibility they might get violent and what are you prepared to do.


22 posted on 05/06/2023 8:03:20 AM PDT by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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No, it reflects the inhumane policies of Democrats in big cities that perpetuate homelessness.


24 posted on 05/06/2023 8:38:07 AM PDT by Kazan
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Most mentally ill homeless do not want to be “housed” or contained anywhere by anyone for any reason. That can only be countered by involuntary institutionalization. That is a rode we have gone down before in the past, and it was, or it became, fraught with problems of abuse, wrongful involuntary institutionalization and wrongful delay in release of persons that were actually rehabilitated from their mental issues.

Involuntary institutionalization has to return, but we have to be better at it than we were in the past.


26 posted on 05/06/2023 9:24:41 AM PDT by Wuli
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I meet a lot of homeless in my job and most of them are jerks with defective personalities that no one could live with.


27 posted on 05/06/2023 9:51:06 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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I meet a lot of homeless in my job and most of them are jerks with defective personalities that no one could live with.


28 posted on 05/06/2023 9:51:11 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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