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Illinois officials claim Second Amendment only protects handguns for self-defense
Bearing Arms ^ | 5/4/23 | Cam Edwards

Posted on 05/04/2023 3:20:20 PM PDT by CFW

I’ve seen a lot of dumb arguments from anti-gunners over the years, many of them repeated ad nauseam, so I’ll give Naperville, Illinois and its attorneys a small amount of credit for their originality in defending the city’s ban on so-called assault weapons in its latest filing with the Seventh Circuit. But from a legal perspective, the city’s claim that the right to keep and bear arms extends only to handguns is downright silly, not to mention contradicted by several Supreme Court opinions.

[Tweet by Firearms Policy Coalition:]

"Naperville: "In short, nothing in Heller or Bruen suggests that the Second Amendment protects any rights unrelated to possession of handguns for self-defense inside or outside the home.""

[snip]

Naperville’s entire case is based on the false premise that the so-called assault weapons banned by their ordinance aren’t protected by the Second Amendment, and this is just one of the lame arguments made by the city’s attorneys (which include staffers from the Brady Campaign), who also maintain that even if “assault weapons” are covered by the Second Amendment there’s no right to buy or sell them. Seems to me if you have the right to keep and bear a particular arm you must also have ability to acquire one for lawful purposes, especially since the gun control lobby also maintains that we don’t have a right to build our own. If you have the right to “keep” you must also have the right to “get” an arm for self-defense, and the Seventh Circuit should reject the city’s premise outright.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; firearms; gunrights; illinois; moonbatcrazylibs
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Higher courts need to smack down Illinois recently passed gun-control laws and smack them down hard!

The Heller decision, along with the NY Pistol decision have both confirmed that individuals have a right to keep and carry arms as recognized by the Second Amendment.

The politicians who continue to try to violate citizen's rights, need to be held personally liable for those violations. There should be no sovereign immunity 'out' for these legislative members.

1 posted on 05/04/2023 3:20:20 PM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

I would be interested t know how Illinois’ copy of the U.S. Constitution reads. It is obviously different from the one I am familiar with.


2 posted on 05/04/2023 3:23:44 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: CFW

Seems like just yesterday the pinkos wanted to ban handguns


3 posted on 05/04/2023 3:23:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: CFW

Declaration of Independence argues differently about civilian firepower:

“He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.”


4 posted on 05/04/2023 3:24:31 PM PDT by conservativeimage (Help Reassemble Civilian Government. Join Your State Assembly - tasa.americanstatenationals.org)
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To: ThanhPhero
I would be interested t know how Illinois’ copy of the U.S. Constitution reads. It is obviously different from the one I am familiar with.

They use the NLT: New Liberal Translation.

5 posted on 05/04/2023 3:26:37 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: CFW
Oh, how progressive. I thought our founders meant this: /s


6 posted on 05/04/2023 3:28:46 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?" Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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To: ThanhPhero

It’s truly amazing just how outrageously stupid the communists are getting with their (ridiculous) lies and distortions.

How in the world can anyone really discuss anything with such wackos ?


7 posted on 05/04/2023 3:31:36 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: CFW

Second Amendment only protects the .45ACP model 1911 and the 9mm Browning Hi Power and in 1777 they included the .223 AR-15 platform. /s


8 posted on 05/04/2023 3:32:53 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: ThanhPhero

“I would be interested t know how Illinois’ copy of the U.S. Constitution reads.”

Well, we could tell you, but JB Pritzker spilled gravy and powdered sugar all over it, so we are going to need to get it dry cleaned or something.


9 posted on 05/04/2023 3:36:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ThanhPhero

No, these people are simply stupid.


10 posted on 05/04/2023 3:42:57 PM PDT by abbastanza
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To: CFW
Here ya go...

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11 posted on 05/04/2023 3:43:06 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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"The politicians who continue to try to violate citizen's rights, need to be held personally liable for those violations."

Should be: The politicians who continue to try to violate citizen's natural rights that have been upheld and confirmed by the USSC, and that remain upheld and confirmed, need to be held personally liable for those violations.

12 posted on 05/04/2023 3:47:17 PM PDT by jpp113
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“Should be: The politicians who continue to try to violate citizen’s natural rights that have been upheld and confirmed by the USSC, and that remain upheld and confirmed, need to be held personally liable for those violations.”


Thanks for the correction and clarification.


13 posted on 05/04/2023 3:49:13 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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To: CFW

Ill-Annoy.


14 posted on 05/04/2023 3:49:16 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Disband and Defund the putrid FBI. America does not need an out of control Gestapo)
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The ruling class are more afraid of the people than ever before.


15 posted on 05/04/2023 4:07:01 PM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.)
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To: BenLurkin

There are handguns already banned in Illinois. I see ads for local gun stores for handguns. There is always an inexpensive 22 handgun that always states “ Not available in Illinois”. I think it has to do with the metal in the frame or something. Sorry for not knowing exactly.


16 posted on 05/04/2023 4:16:21 PM PDT by midwest_hiker
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To: BenLurkin

Handguns already banned in Illinois:
Bryco All models, all calibers

Butler All derringers

Chiappa 1873-22, 1911-22

Clerke All revolvers

Cobra Standard, big bore, long bore derringers; all models,

all calibers

Denali Automatic; all models, all calibers

CA semiauto; all models, all calibers

FS semiauto; all models, all calibers

Colt Frontier Scout with serial number suffix “K”, or “P”,

Lord Derringer, Lady Derringer

EAA Windicator .38 revolvers; all models

ERMA EP-22, LA-22, ET-22

FIE GT25, Cowboy .22LR, E15, Titan 25, Titan Tiger,

Arminius HW5, HW38, all derringers

FN FN 502

GSG Firefly; GSG-1911 (All.22LR models), GSG 5-P, GSG 5-

PK, GSG 522P, GSG 522PK

Heritage Rough Rider .22 “Alloy” frame models

Hi-Point All models, all calibers of their handguns

Jennings All models, all calibers

Jimenez All models, all calibers

Lorcin All models, all calibers

Phoenix Arms HP22/HP25

Raven Arms P25, MP25

Reck All models (includes private labels: LA Fury, Chicago

Cub, P8)

Rohm/RG All revolvers except .357 mag, .41 mag, .44 mag, .45

Colt, all automatic pistols

SIG Sauer Mosquito .22LR

Smith & Wesson SW 380 Sigma, SW9M Sigma

Stallard Arms All models

Sterling 300, 302

Sundance Arms All models

Walther Walther P22, PPK/S 22, PPQ .22

Uzi .22 pistol

Heckler and Koch 416 .22 pistol

Colt/Umarex 1911 .22


17 posted on 05/04/2023 4:19:11 PM PDT by midwest_hiker
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To: midwest_hiker

Wow!


18 posted on 05/04/2023 4:21:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Seems like just yesterday the pinkos wanted to ban handguns..”

They always will.


19 posted on 05/04/2023 4:24:04 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ThanhPhero

“It is obviously different from the one I am familiar with.”

No...the same but interpreted by criminals.


20 posted on 05/04/2023 4:27:58 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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