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I take it you’re referring to the freed slave vote; the 14th was ratified in 1868, and the presidential election that year saw an electoral landslide for U.S. Grant, a Republican...the freed slave vote was granted by the 15th, in 1870...so tell us again how it was necessary for the pubs in 1868 to have amendments save them when there were none of ‘those votes’, as you called them, cast in that election...

Am well familiar when the 14th and 15th amendments were passed. Do you think Modern Liberals were thinking that their efforts to let in 3rd worlders in 1964 would not bear eventual fruit? Do you think 1860 liberals were only thinking about the immediate future?

If you don't see the connection between expanding the voting franchise to poor ignorant people who love more government, and liberals gaining power, then you are a bit dense.

It's always about gaining power. It's never about morality or human kindness.

‘...then you are a bit dense’

heh heh heh; struck a nerve, I see...however, you made the point that the Republicans couldn’t win presidential elections with the existing post civil war electorate...

so which party won in 1868, in an electoral college landslide, with only the existing anti pubbie electorate you refer to...?

hmmm...?

DiogenesLamp: "If you don't see the connection between expanding the voting franchise to poor ignorant people who love more government, and liberals gaining power, then you are a bit dense.
It's always about gaining power.
It's never about morality or human kindness."

Of course, you realize, don't you, that Thomas Jefferson's "Democratic" party got its name because Jefferson was all in favor of expanding the voter rolls to include not just property owners -- which had enfranchised women and freed-blacks -- but all men "free, white and 21".
Jefferson's new laws which expanded the vote to all adult men also disenfranchised property owning women and African Americans.

And Jefferson was 100% successful in that his Democratic Party dominated US national politics until they declared secession and war on the United States in 1861.

My point is that this idea of guaranteed election victories by adding more of your own voters to the rolls is as old as the Republic itself.
Jefferson's "Democratics" played that game successfully from 1800 to 1860, then lost it when Republicans were able to fill western states & territories with anti-slavery immigrant farmers, until 1932, when the Great Depression caused many of them to remember their European socialist roots and vote for the closest thing they could find here, Democrat Franklin Roosevelt.

Democrats have always been an alliance of Big City immigrants with globalized Big Business, which back in the Old Days was King Cotton.

As for "morality or human kindness", no human being in all of history could say "no" to the opportunity to make money and gain political power by selling voters their own version of "morality or human kindness".