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Don't Count Ron DeSantis Out
Real Clear Politics | WSJ ^ | May 1, 2023 | Mark Penn, Wall Street Journal

Posted on 05/01/2023 8:39:21 AM PDT by conservative98

Can Ron DeSantis beat Donald Trump? In the game of presidential politics, well-known front-runners often falter and up-and-comers often win—Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton, and Jimmy Carter came from nowhere to beat establishment figures such as Rep. Mo Udall and Sen. Henry “Scoop” Jackson. When Mr. Trump was the challenger, he polished off Jeb Bush, the Florida governor who once led the pack.

The DeSantis ship is clearly listing and must right itself. I wouldn’t normally give advice to a Republican candidate, but someone has to stop Donald Trump from regaining the presidency, and I wouldn’t count on President Biden to do it given his low job-approval rating and widespread doubts about his fitness. Mr. Trump leads Mr. Biden in the RealClearPolitics polling average. A Trump-Biden rematch is a risky proposition, and with the Democrats consolidated around Mr. Biden, the only way to avoid it is through the Republican primary.

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For Mr. DeSantis to make progress, he has to realize he can’t get the “ultra-MAGA” voters that are Mr. Trump’s base and should go instead after more-moderate voters who are looking for someone who can cure the economy and stand up for their interests. While his attacks on Disney are popular among some, and a six-week abortion ban plays to part of the Republican base, these positions have damaged Mr. DeSantis’s chances at courting the middle. As with Mr. Biden in 2020, the core of the DeSantis argument is that he is more electable than Mr. Trump because he can attract the votes of moderate suburban women and Latinos. The more rightward Mr. DeSantis shifts, the more he loses primary support. There are plenty of moderates among Republican primary voters. They nominated John McCain and Mitt Romney, after all.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 1desantis2024; 2024; biden; desantis; electability; elections; hillary; jebbush; maga; magawithdesantis; markpenn; murdoch; newscorp; realleadership; romney; rupertmurdoch; stoptrump; trump; trump46ptlead; wsj
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To: stanne

I thought he was farting in that meme. Lighten up, it was funny… an attempt at merriment and levity.


41 posted on 05/01/2023 9:52:02 AM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Wil)
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To: conservative98
Don't Count Ron DeSantis Out

I haven't even counted him in - he's not running, he hasn't made any campaign speeches, I have no idea what his platform would be. If he does get in the race, he would have to finally take Trump on and actively go after him - so far it's all been one-sided, with Trump and his surrogates bashing DeSantis.
42 posted on 05/01/2023 9:53:19 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Dr. Sivana

someone who is against cutting off children’s private parts without parental permission.

WITH or WITHOUT parental permission.

If they’re not 18, no operations/sex changes. Period.

You have to be 18 to vote, 21 to drink or buy cigarettes (which while harmful to your body, are reversible at least).


43 posted on 05/01/2023 9:54:19 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: JonPreston

🤣😁😂


44 posted on 05/01/2023 9:57:38 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: ro_dreaming
WITH or WITHOUT parental permission.

If they’re not 18, no operations/sex changes. Period.


I agree, of course. I was just trying to emphasize how extreme the cultural left has gotten. "Sex change" is a misnomer, anyway. If a mutilated man doesn't use certain chemicals, devices and technical treatments on a daily basis, things seal up, and the the true sex becomes more apparent.
45 posted on 05/01/2023 9:58:50 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: conservative98

All this is just theater the DNCMedia made up.

And, of course, the Deep State and demoncrats/Leftists eats it up, loves it, worships and masturbates to it.

I like Ron. But he needs to wait.

BTW, the Republicans have voters, and the demonrats have ballots.

That’s the key to next year’s election.


46 posted on 05/01/2023 10:04:00 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Gov't declaring misinformation is tyranny: “Who determines what false information is?” )
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To: PUGACHEV

“…an assassination attempt”

My first laugh this Monday morning.

People think Trump would quit? Over an assassination attempt. Get out from under that rock


47 posted on 05/01/2023 10:04:15 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Responsibility2nd
All DeSantis needs to do is wait. Wait until Trump self immolates and removes himself from the picture.

LOLOLOL

48 posted on 05/01/2023 10:10:52 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

I don’t see what’s so funny. I’m no anti-Trumper. I actually support him.

In spite of all the bone head moves he has made and is making.

But if doesn’t wise up, he will hand the nomination over to RDS.

Which will be fine by me.


49 posted on 05/01/2023 10:23:46 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Donald Trump is a setting sun. Ron DeSantis is a rising star.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’m no anti-Trumper. I actually support him

That may be true, but any criticism of Trump is not tolerated by only-Trumpers. I will vote for Trump if he’s the nominee, but I refuse to approve of everything he says or does if I disagree with him about something. I will never give anyone my unconditional support.

50 posted on 05/01/2023 10:33:16 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: conservative98

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but someone has to stop Donald Trump from regaining the presidency,

Stopped right there.
Their TDS-Anti MAGA Swamp love is showing..


51 posted on 05/01/2023 10:47:32 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: Erik Latranyi
DeSantis gave up Disney money to fight the groomers.
DeSantis gave up donor money to sign a 6 week abortion ban.
Yeah, he seems to be in the pocket of the moderates.

Doing the inconsequential things that make little difference to the average American, while ignoring the corruption of the FBI (something about Raids on a former president's home) not standing up for the UNBIASED rule of Law.

Yes RonRon is the the pockets of the Uniparty Oligarchs like the Koche Brothers

52 posted on 05/01/2023 11:42:50 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: DanZ

Who are the “Koche” Brothers?


53 posted on 05/01/2023 11:46:18 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Trump is very popular with his base, but not popular nationally....especially with women.

You mean the FEMINISTS that have now screwed themselves with all of this LGBTQWERTY B.S.?

54 posted on 05/01/2023 11:46:39 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: DanZ
Doing the inconsequential things

Right, those “inconsequential things” that coward Republicans refuse to address because the culture war isn’t worth fighting because it is a losing issue. Tell that to parents that don’t want sexually explicit books promoting LGBT in school libraries.

55 posted on 05/01/2023 11:49:49 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Night Hides Not
Who are the “Koche” Brothers?

My bad KochE as in one industrial family that with others control the gopE in the same way that SOROS controls the Ds.

56 posted on 05/01/2023 11:51:59 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: windsorknot
Right, those “inconsequential things” that coward Republicans refuse to address because the culture war isn’t worth fighting because it is a losing issue. Tell that to parents that don’t want sexually explicit books promoting LGBT in school libraries.

The Parents should HOME SCHOOL if they truly care about their children - something about sacrifices

THe FEDERAL issues - NO WARS, NO politized FBI, NO Spying by the FBI, CIA other Fed. Agencies on the average American, Exorbitant Federal Debt deficit that will wipe out Social Security

It is possible you have a limited view of the BIG picture

57 posted on 05/01/2023 11:56:26 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: DanZ
It is possible you have a limited view of the BIG picture

No, I am perfectly capable of multitasking. Regarding Home Schooling, I love the idea, but it’s not an option for many parents.

58 posted on 05/01/2023 12:01:35 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Dr. Sivana

Sex change is a misnomer, in that they are not changing XY to XX or XX to XY. They’re just putting a ‘57 Chevy ass on a ‘63 body (for example). Change the outside all they want, it’s still XX or XY.


59 posted on 05/01/2023 12:01:38 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: conservative98

I never counted Ron DeSantis in in the first place.

I have no problem with DeSantis, but it was always going to be Trump in 2024… they sabotaged his first term and stole his second term from us - and we want it back - nothing less is acceptable.


60 posted on 05/01/2023 12:03:36 PM PDT by enumerated ( )
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