Posted on 04/30/2023 10:54:14 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
The United States is wiring Ukraine with sensors that can detect bursts of radiation from a nuclear weapon or a dirty bomb and can confirm the identity of the attacker.
In part, the goal is to make sure that if Russia detonates a radioactive weapon on Ukrainian soil, its atomic signature and Moscow’s culpability could be verified.
Ever since Russia invaded Ukraine 14 months ago, experts have worried about whether President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia would use nuclear arms in combat for the first time since the American bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. The preparations, mentioned last month in a House hearing and detailed Wednesday by the National Nuclear Security Administration, a federal agency that is part of the Energy Department, seem to constitute the hardest evidence to date that Washington is taking concrete steps to prepare for the worst possible outcomes of the invasion of Ukraine, Europe’s second largest nation.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
“In the meantime, the US is sending Uranium weapons to spread everywhere.”
Stop with the sensationalism. Depleted uranium is NOT a nuclear weapon, and to label it a “Uranium weapon” is just a scare tactic; which is why Putin trots out the scare phrase “nuclear component” when addressing the West’s proposal to supply Ukraine with some. It is simply hardened metal capable of penetrating armored targets such as tanks. Russia has them, as well (for instance, in the Svinets cannon round).
“You forgot to mention that they’ll only use them if they lose this conflict with the Ukraine.”
And you have that confirmation from whom?
“The only way that I see them losing is if NATO and the US get directly involved.”
You place too much faith in Russia’s ability to fight a conventional war, and not enough in Ukraine’s ability to do so, especially when the latter is fighting an existential war to defend its own homeland.
“This war is looking more like the Korean War so far. A stalemate.”
Yes, there could be a valid comparison there.
“It’s a possibility if it is a first strike that decapitates all leadership in very short order and they can take out our nuke subs quickly, too.”
Which Russia can’t accomplish.
“carried by the winds back into Russia and Moscow.”
Take a long look at where they were carried after the Nuclear power plant disaster in the 80s.
It ended up in Europe also.
So , they could set off several in THE Ukraine and radiate all of northern Europe at the same time.
In the fwiw department, satellites, seismic sensors and witnesses can do the same thing.
5.56mm
Which is why I'll encourage a ceasefire. Hope the next Russian President is like Gorbachev.
“Which is why I’ll encourage a ceasefire. Hope the next Russian President is like Gorbachev.”
A ceasefire without withdrawal will only stabilize the current positions, in which case Ukraine loses.
You're right. But the next Russian President is going to want to trade with the West. Which is why I said IF he's like Gorbachev. They'll return the occupied territories of Ukraine just so they won't be isolated.
Could be.
Yet, the Russians keep winning. Bakhmut is a good example. They also neutralized the Ukes’ offensive in November of 2022.
—> . Depleted uranium is NOT a nuclear weapon, and to label it a “Uranium weapon” is just a scare tactic;
If you weren’t scared by reading the phrase “depleted uranium” then I think you’re just making noise.
No son. I did not say nuclear weapon, you did.
But depleted uranium is radioactive and can cause radiation poisoning - and is particularly harmful to children.
“And you have that confirmation from whom?”
Wow! You are REALLY dense. Did you even read the news article at the link I provided?
Let me quote it.
“A Kremlin insider warned Thursday that Russia could start a nuclear war if it lost its conventional war in Ukraine.
Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia’s security council and a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, made the threat in a post on the Telegram messaging app.”
Let’s go to the Telegram message sent by Medvedev.
https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/252
Завтра на натовской базе Рамштайн великие военачальники будут обсуждать новую тактику и стратегию, а также поставки на Украину нового тяжёлого вооружения и ударных систем. И это сразу после форума в Давосе, где недоразвитые политические тусовщики как мантру повторяли: «Чтобы добиться мира, Россия должна проиграть».
И ни одному из убогих не приходит в голову сделать следующий из этого элементарный вывод: проигрыш ядерной державы в обычной войне может спровоцировать начало войны ядерной. Ядерные державы не проигрывали крупных конфликтов, от которых зависит их судьба.
А ведь это должно быть очевидно любому человеку. Даже западному политику, сохранившему хоть какие-то следы интеллекта.
Translation:
Tomorrow, at NATO’s Ramstein base, great military leaders will discuss new tactics and strategy, as well as the supply of new heavy weapons and strike systems to Ukraine. And this is right after the forum in Davos, where underdeveloped political party-goers repeated like a mantra: “To achieve peace, Russia must lose.”
And it does not occur to any of the wretched to draw the following elementary conclusion from this: the loss of a nuclear power in a conventional war can provoke the outbreak of a nuclear war. Nuclear powers have not lost major conflicts on which their fate depends.
But this should be obvious to any person. Even a Western politician who has retained at least some traces of intelligence.
This is the dumbest war of our lifetime. Totally avoidable, useless, and idiotic. But it will be still going on 10 year from now.
Oh good. Sensors. I would hate for them to sneak a nuclear blast by us without us noticing.
“Intelligence”’ We really need to consider changing the name.
“But the next Russian President is going to want to trade with the West.”
That ship has sailed. It’s so gone it’s already in the new world, building colonies and handing out blankets.
There will be no new trade for decades now. We have firmly convinced Russians that we will never treat them as a normal nation no matter how friendly they become unless they accept being an administrative district of DC and London.
So... you’re waiting on a future Russian president, to return the Donbass people to the tender mercies of the Ukrainian nazi dominated government, and then open trade again?
After the seizure of hundreds of billions in gold and cash assets, cutting them off from western banking, leaving them with an airline fleet with no spare parts or support, blowing up their 20 billion dollar pipeline...
Just one day a Gorbachev will arise and accept all our terms and it’ll all be nice again?
Wow
Handing out blankets?
“If you weren’t scared by reading the phrase ‘depleted uranium’ then I think you’re just making noise.”
No, I wasn’t scared. Then again, I’m not a member of a tank crew. For the rest of us, DU is not a big deal.
“No son. I did not say nuclear weapon, you did.”
Son, I didn’t say you did. But your hero Vlad Putin implied it, even though he knows better.
“But depleted uranium is radioactive and can cause radiation poisoning - and is particularly harmful to children.”
When you trot out the old bromide, “It’s for the children!” you have lost the argument.
Have you any idea how much radiation one has to be exposed to in order to suffer radiation poisoning? Unless you eat it or ingest it DU is not a concern. Kind of like a lot of things that have an adverse effect on the human body if taken in excess.
Quit clutching your pearls.
“Yet, the Russians keep winning. Bakhmut is a good example.”
Yet, Russia has lost half of the territory it had initially taken; and is now being assailed in Crimea. This thing is a long way from being over.
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