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To: Tom Tetroxide

“You forgot to mention that they’ll only use them if they lose this conflict with the Ukraine.”

And you have that confirmation from whom?

“The only way that I see them losing is if NATO and the US get directly involved.”

You place too much faith in Russia’s ability to fight a conventional war, and not enough in Ukraine’s ability to do so, especially when the latter is fighting an existential war to defend its own homeland.


22 posted on 04/30/2023 11:40:30 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Yet, the Russians keep winning. Bakhmut is a good example. They also neutralized the Ukes’ offensive in November of 2022.


31 posted on 04/30/2023 12:13:18 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: ought-six

“And you have that confirmation from whom?”

Wow! You are REALLY dense. Did you even read the news article at the link I provided?

Let me quote it.

“A Kremlin insider warned Thursday that Russia could start a nuclear war if it lost its conventional war in Ukraine.

Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia’s security council and a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, made the threat in a post on the Telegram messaging app.”

Let’s go to the Telegram message sent by Medvedev.
https://t.me/medvedev_telegram/252

Завтра на натовской базе Рамштайн великие военачальники будут обсуждать новую тактику и стратегию, а также поставки на Украину нового тяжёлого вооружения и ударных систем. И это сразу после форума в Давосе, где недоразвитые политические тусовщики как мантру повторяли: «Чтобы добиться мира, Россия должна проиграть».

И ни одному из убогих не приходит в голову сделать следующий из этого элементарный вывод: проигрыш ядерной державы в обычной войне может спровоцировать начало войны ядерной. Ядерные державы не проигрывали крупных конфликтов, от которых зависит их судьба.
А ведь это должно быть очевидно любому человеку. Даже западному политику, сохранившему хоть какие-то следы интеллекта.

Translation:

Tomorrow, at NATO’s Ramstein base, great military leaders will discuss new tactics and strategy, as well as the supply of new heavy weapons and strike systems to Ukraine. And this is right after the forum in Davos, where underdeveloped political party-goers repeated like a mantra: “To achieve peace, Russia must lose.”

And it does not occur to any of the wretched to draw the following elementary conclusion from this: the loss of a nuclear power in a conventional war can provoke the outbreak of a nuclear war. Nuclear powers have not lost major conflicts on which their fate depends.
But this should be obvious to any person. Even a Western politician who has retained at least some traces of intelligence.


33 posted on 04/30/2023 12:18:56 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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