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Ukraine says it controls key supply route into Bakhmut
Reuters ^ | April 30, 2023 | Lidia Kelly

Posted on 04/30/2023 4:23:21 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: JonPreston
It's important Russia keeps a door open to the charnel house.

Oh, so is that why Prigozhin is screaming bloody murder and threatening to pull what's left of Wagner out of Bakhmut to leave a gaping hole in the rapidly thinning Russian front lines?

21 posted on 04/30/2023 7:42:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

8.75% of Bakhmut is still in Ukue hands. What gives?


22 posted on 04/30/2023 7:46:16 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: freeandfreezing

From what I understand the slow taking of Bakhmut was intentionally done by the Russians to grind the Ukrainian army to dust. Considering that the military paper that leaked indicates that the Russians have been killing Ukes at the rate of 7:1 and possibly even 10:1 or higher, would prove this strategy out.

Both sides are waiting to begin their offensives and counter-offensives until the mud dries out.


23 posted on 04/30/2023 7:48:22 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: JonPreston

You said it was over back in October and again in January, February, and March, but here we are Comrade, still fighting over that worthless rubbled mining town. So what gives?


24 posted on 04/30/2023 7:55:21 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Tom Tetroxide
From what I understand the slow taking of Bakhmut was intentionally done by the Russians to grind the Ukrainian army to dust.

You understand poorly.


25 posted on 04/30/2023 7:56:59 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Of course, Russians are getting killed in the combat. I never denied that. The rate at which Russians are getting killed compared to Ukes is 1 Russian to every 7 Ukes. Take that photo you posted and make seven of them and throw a Uke flag on it.

Obviously, it is you that understands poorly.


26 posted on 04/30/2023 8:00:10 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Tom Tetroxide
The rate at which Russians are getting killed compared to Ukes is 1 Russian to every 7 Ukes.

Which is an outright lie.

More than twice as many Russian troops as Ukrainians have been killed in Putin's war, leaked estimates show

Leaked US intelligence documents reveal that more than twice as many Russian soldiers as Ukrainian soldiers have been killed while fighting in Ukraine.

The documents, which were recently leaked on social media and are currently the focus of a federal investigation, offer estimates for Russian and Ukrainian casualties. US officials have described the information included in the leak — which appear to provide detailed assessments on the Ukraine war — as highly sensitive and classified.

One document in particular suggests that Russia has suffered between 189,500 and 223,000 casualties, including between 35,500 and 43,000 soldiers killed in action and between 154,000 and 180,000 troops wounded.

Ukraine, by contrast, has suffered between 124,500 and 131,000 casualties, including between 15,500 and 17,500 soldiers killed in action and between 109,000 and 113,500 troops wounded.

27 posted on 04/30/2023 8:03:42 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: dominusobiscum
…then why all the false bragging for the last 8 months…

What was your FR handle eight months ago?

28 posted on 04/30/2023 8:09:45 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Timber Rattler

If you like drinking the Fool-Aid, then drink more of it and convince yourself that the Ukes are going to win this one.

When the Ruskies win tell me how much of a magnificent victory it was for the Ukes.


29 posted on 04/30/2023 8:09:50 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Timber Rattler
Oh, so is that why Prigozhin is screaming bloody murder and threatening to pull what's left of Wagner out of Bakhmut to leave a gaping hole in the rapidly thinning Russian front lines?

Well gee, I don’t know, but it sounds like Zelensky doesn’t need any more of our money or weapons. Cool beans.

30 posted on 04/30/2023 8:12:29 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra

That is irrelevant to my point. Dont u think it is odd that pro-aggression supporters would falsely brag about Russian capturing Bahkmut for months only to then say that was never the objective? And wouldnt you expect that false bragging to be mocked?

I am always amazed how some people tick...


31 posted on 04/30/2023 8:25:39 AM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: Timber Rattler

It’s over, Babauskia. But if you insist, keep feeding the Russian cannons.


32 posted on 04/30/2023 8:32:47 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: dominusobiscum

Welcome to Free Republic.


33 posted on 04/30/2023 8:33:33 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: dominusobiscum
That is irrelevant to my point.

Retreads aren’t an irrelevant topic here. They’re trolls.

What was your previous FR handle?

I’m impervious to all of the propaganda, by the way, so you don’t need to waste time spewing it at me. I think both Russia and Ukraine are as corrupt as the day is long. I think their propaganda is cluttery, obnoxious noise. I despise Putin and Zelensky.

I am, however, vehemently opposed to Biden-Obama giving unchecked billions to Zelensky with no accountability requirements whatsoever. I despise seeing that mincing little grifter demanding our money and equipment.

And I have learned that a lot of the Ukrainians here on FR are a nasty, rude lot, hissing hate and insults at every turn as they spam and pollute this forum daily.

So what was your previous FR handle, retread?

34 posted on 04/30/2023 8:39:10 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: This_Dude

100%


35 posted on 04/30/2023 8:57:08 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Timber Rattler
You so full of sh$t. The Ukrainians presently control less than 10% of Bakhmut. This despite the fact Zelensky has spent thousands of his best troops to their death in Bakhmut.

You're too stupid of baboon to realize that sucking more Ukrainians into a death trap in a war of attrition is fulfilling the Russian strategy of defeating the Ukraine army.

Ukraine is low on men, ammo and missiles for their air defense. Ukraine doesn't the manpower and NATO can't match Russian production of ammo and missiles. Thus, the reason, the counteroffensive hasn't happened and may never happen.

36 posted on 04/30/2023 9:35:55 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Allegra
And I have learned that a lot of the Ukrainians here on FR are a nasty, rude lot, hissing hate and insults at every turn as they spam and pollute this forum daily.

The irony is still completely lost on you, I see.

The ad hominem posts below make my point.

37 posted on 04/30/2023 10:27:09 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Allegra

I am not trolling. If I said I never had another handle would you believe me? Of course not.

I pointed out the contradictory positions of the agression cheerleaders and you respond that you dont care about the propaganda. So why then did you even respond to me when I asked about it?


38 posted on 04/30/2023 10:29:00 AM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Thanks! Lurked for a long long time.


39 posted on 04/30/2023 10:30:43 AM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Show us the Ukrainian cemeteries now. They must be vast.


40 posted on 04/30/2023 10:31:06 AM PDT by This_Dude
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