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Florida fires back in Disney spat, spotlighting Reedy Creek’s failure to comply with Sunshine Law
The Capitolist ^ | April 20th 2023 | Brian Burgess

Posted on 04/23/2023 1:32:56 PM PDT by Jacquerie

Lawyers for Governor Ron DeSantis’ Central Florida Tourism Oversight Board found that Disney’s agreements with the former Reedy Creek Improvement District were null and void as they did not follow state law requirements.

The Oversight Board plans to consider a resolution voiding the agreements on April 26.

Disney failed to comply with statutory notice requirements, such as notifying affected property owners by mail of the new development agreement and attempting to confer governmental powers to a private business.

The new Oversight Board exerted their control by firing the planning and zoning board, appointing themselves in its place, and approving a resolution declaring themselves the “superior authority” over development matters.

They also discussed raising property taxes on Disney and other district landowners, building affordable workforce housing on District land, exploring the sale of district-owned utilities, and seeking back-pay of taxes.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecapitolist.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: antiwoke; desantis; disney; dontsaygay; fl; florida; nogroomers; nopedos; reedycreek
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Disney will lose to DeSantis.
1 posted on 04/23/2023 1:32:56 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: mbrfl

Thought you might like to know.


2 posted on 04/23/2023 1:33:49 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jonty30; Reno89519; cowboyusa; Seaplaner; CA Conservative; whitney69; Jewbacca; imabadboy99; ...

FYI


3 posted on 04/23/2023 1:34:19 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

But DeSantis is losing according to Vox.


4 posted on 04/23/2023 1:36:47 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Jacquerie

Seize it, bulldoze it, sell the land to Sea World.

-For the children.


5 posted on 04/23/2023 1:45:59 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

There used to be a Sea World in Ohio, near Cedar Point amusement park. I wonder why if failed and how it was for the aquatic animals they kept there to perform for people?


6 posted on 04/23/2023 1:55:36 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (Nothing Changes if Nothing Changes)
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To: Jacquerie
Disney will fight hard to keep their special entitlements. But they have made a mistake contemptuously spitting in the faces of Florida taxpayers.

Eventually they will be placed on equal footing with other businesses and competitors. Long overdue and an indictment of previous Florida executives.

7 posted on 04/23/2023 1:59:49 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Jacquerie

If you think this is some kind of check mate, you’re kidding yourself. DeSantis’s efforts will have no effect on getting Disney to stop their woke-ism, which is the ultimate goal of all of this. It will achieve nothing in that regard. It may cause Disney to divest from some of their Florida properties, put any expansion plans they have on hold, etc. But beyond that it’s going to accomplish nothing, except maybe hurting the Central Florida economy.

It’s a meaningless battle being hyped up by the DeSantis spin doctors.


8 posted on 04/23/2023 2:02:43 PM PDT by mbrfl
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"It’s a meaningless battle being hyped up by the DeSantis spin doctors."

If we don't fight back we lose. Do you have a counter proposal or plan?

9 posted on 04/23/2023 2:14:57 PM PDT by fini
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To: mbrfl

And where will Disney move them to? New York? Texas?


10 posted on 04/23/2023 2:15:03 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: mbrfl

That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out opinion.


11 posted on 04/23/2023 2:16:23 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jacquerie

Does DeSantis ever do any firing back for himself? Florida and his PAC always do the talking. Is there a reason for that?

Let me think.......maybe because the return fire never lands on his doorstep?


12 posted on 04/23/2023 2:17:58 PM PDT by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: fini; mbrfl
“If we don't fight back we lose. Do you have a counter proposal or plan?”

All the Don Jrs have a plan: don't fight back and drink more Bud Light.

13 posted on 04/23/2023 2:28:19 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: mbrfl

No, it isn’t meaningless. If it was meaningless Fagney would not have tried to subvert the new policy.

And if Fagney moves to Ewww Yuck, so much the better.


14 posted on 04/23/2023 2:29:05 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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To: Jacquerie

Of course you’re right. The Republicans in Florida are doing what we always criticize the GOP for not doing: exercising the power that has been given them. The Florida legislature cannot allow its will to be thwarted by a corporation. It appears they’re right and this action is void. Even if that weren’t the case, the legislature has all the power the thwart this attempt to overthrow its will. And the simpletons who say Disney has better lawyers and will win have no idea what they’re talking about. The Florida AG will have all the resources it needs to win this fight

That expiration date of 21 years after the death of the last grandchild of Charles’s III’s last grandchild is put in to get around a legal principle known as the Rule Against Perpetuities. You need that or your action is void. This particularly cutesy formulation, though, was intended to taint the Legislature… cuz libs can’t help putting their victories in your face. They’re going to be made to regret that.

This is a watershed in the fight for liberty. We must win. Anyone, and I do mean anyone, doing catcalls from the sidelines, is selfishly undermining liberty and needs to STFU


15 posted on 04/23/2023 2:39:44 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: desertsolitaire

Sea World Ohio closed because Cedar Fair, who bought the property in 2004, “doesn’t do animals.” The property was a water park until it closed in 2017.


16 posted on 04/23/2023 2:41:11 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: mbrfl

I don’t agree that this is a meaningless fight. There was a time when companies understood a simple principle. Don’t alienate your customers. Don’t bite the hand(s) that feed you. One of the principle ways not to do that was to avoid public stances on social issues and politics. Private political donations? Sure. Public statements and pursuing an agenda? No.

So here is Disney. They built their current empire on the magnificence of Walt Disney World. Many Disney apologists would have you believe that they did that to the sole benefit of Central Florida. To be sure there was great benefit, but not without cost. Not without other business not receiving the same privileges as Disney.

Along that company comes and adopts policies and promotes an agenda that directly insults, attacks and waged war on a fundamental issue that should be beyond reproach. A PARENTS RIGHT TO HAVE A SAY in what their children learn in schools. Disney sides with guys like Garland who want to investigate and jail such parents. But I guess now, what, battling against your kids having “proper oral sex” techniques taught to them is meaningless?!?!

What did DeSantis do? He did EXACTLY what we have been clamoring for someone, anyone in the GOP to do. He fights back. And he hits at Disney at a fundamental place. How dare they slap the taxpayers who are SUBSIDIZING their business. How dare they!!

And it is meaningless? No, it wasn’t seen that way on this site four or five months ago. It was hailed as bold.

So what changed?

We know what. DeSantis might launch a bId for the GOP nomination. An ill advised choice IMO, but neither here nor there. As a result we now have a swath of Freepers echoing Trump taking this approach:

DeSantis did X, therefore it must be a loss, or the other side is winning or worse taking the side of the likes of Disney. Reflexively, blindly. Without thought or question.

Well, I hope Trump gets the nomination and wins. Got my support. But so does DeSantis. And I will not try to erase the good work that man has done just because he may run against Trump.


17 posted on 04/23/2023 2:43:49 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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So, by your defeatist doctrine, no fight should be undertaken, no matter how worthy, because you may lose?

All I can say is that I'm glad you're not in charge of anything important. Do you even live in Florida?

And I say you're wrong. As time will tell in due course.

18 posted on 04/23/2023 2:52:04 PM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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What was I just saying about Sunshine Laws? Disney's lawyers are good. But Florida's lawyers are better.

This article has a lot of good information:

Disney Is Going To Lose (Again) To Florida and Ron DeSantis.

Florida Freeper

I'm compiling a list of FReepers interested in Florida-related topics.
If you want to be added, please FReepMail me.

19 posted on 04/23/2023 2:56:41 PM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: jeffersondem

“But they have made a mistake contemptuously spitting in the faces of Florida taxpayers. Eventually they will be placed on equal footing with other businesses and competitors.”

And that’s why this whole thing born from politics is going to cost the taxpayers of Florida a huge amount in the long run.

A repeal of Disney’s self-government status in Florida could leave local taxpayers with more than $1 billion in bond debt, according to tax officials and legislators. To fund the government services of Reedy Creek, Disney effectively taxes itself. While the precise tax flows of Reedy Creek are unclear, Scott Randolph, the tax collector for Orange County, said the Reedy Creek district collects roughly $105 million annually in general revenue.

On top of the $105 million, Disney also pays local property taxes. Public records show Disney is the largest taxpayer in central Florida, paying over $280 million in property taxes to the counties between 2015 and 2020.

If the special district is dissolved, Orange and Osceola counties would have to provide the local services currently provided by Reedy Creek. And, the $105 million in revenue would disappear, meaning county and local taxpayers would be on the hook for part or all of the added costs. “If you dissolved Reedy Creek, that $105 million in revenue literally goes away, it doesn’t get transferred,” Randolph said.

The reason: Reedy Creek is what’s known as an “independent tax district” meaning the tax revenues it generates are in addition to its local tax obligations, rather than a replacement of them. If the district is eliminated, the tax payments to Orange and Osceola counties would not increase, Randolph said.

Reedy Creek has bond liabilities of between $1 billion and $1.7 billion, according to the district’s financial filings. Under Florida statute, if Reedy Creek is dissolved, those liabilities are transferred to the local governments — either Bay Lake or Lake Buena Vista, or more likely, Orange and Osceola counties.

“If the counties are left holding the bag, the state might have to come to their aid,” Gary Farmer, State Senate Minority Leader, said. “So it’s not even just a tax issue for these two counties. It affects every taxpayer in the state of Florida.”

For the whole story:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/21/disney-special-district-florida-taxpayers-could-face-a-1-billion-debt-bomb-if-dissolved.html

The Reedy Creek set up was created in 1967. They’re no longer going after Walt, they now are going after Roy. And he covered it a long time ago. I can hear the foreheads hitting the forearms on the desks in the legislatures’ offices.

wy69


20 posted on 04/23/2023 3:42:20 PM PDT by whitney69
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