My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell ordered to pay $5M over debunked 2020 election data

The Hill ^ | 04/20/23 11:58 AM ET

[Renfrew]

Lindell, who promised to pay the $5 million award to anyone who could debunk his data that purportedly proved election fraud, was ordered to pay the sum by a private arbitrator, who ruled that Robert Zeidman, a software expert, successfully disproved Lindell’s claims.

“Based on the foregoing analysis, Mr. Zeidman performed under the contract,” the ruling said. “He proved the data Lindell LLC provided, and represented reflected information from the November 2020 election, unequivocally did not reflect November 2020 election data.

[Boogieman]

“Not a doubt in my mind these voting machines are crooked, and switch votes.”

That’s not the issue here.

[redgolum]

I was talking of Fox news.

And no, I skimmed the article.

[Boogieman]

“It takes months to determine computer fraud as I have worked in the IT Security field for over 20 years and it can’t be determined in short order.”

It doesn’t take months to determine whether a file that someone claims is captured network traffic actually is such a thing or not. If it does take you months to determine that, then I’d question your capabilities.

[trustverify0128]

This isn’t a fine.

Lindell offered up a challenge to prove him wrong. Somebody did.

[Boogieman]

“Well Mike never stated how fast he would pay off the $5M”

Absence of him laying out any timeline is just going to be taken as an implicit promise to pay it all at once if the conditions are satisfied.

[mikelets456]

No, I read about half. Thanks for explaining...it appeared he was fined. Sorry

[trustverify0128]

The arbitration panel would beg to differ. They claim this data analyst complied with the challenge and Lindell has 30 days to pay.

[Coronal]

That’s what comes of dealing with Dennis Montgomery.

[Observator]

Not true.

Thanks for pointing this out. Obviously the Packet Captures are real, so one of several things must explain the discrepancy:

• Due to the Threat Pattern, Lindell could not share the real data with Zeidman out of fear for his life.
• They are the packet captures, but they were corrupted by Antifa (this was my recollection).
• They are the packet captures, but they're encrypted and require optic lenses with the decryption key embedded in the lens to review (possibly).

Last once might be a stretch, I'm researching whether the Chinese Empire has new code now. I'm aware safety is not guaranteed but I have done this once before.

[trustverify0128]

“Is it legal to hold a national Republican only pre-election?”

A national election? My bet is no. Elections are run by states.

Who’s going to pay for it?

And why would a Republican-only election give any indication as to what would happen when you let all registered voters participate?

[Boogieman]

There’s also the technical reason that any programmer can tell you: there’s an upper limit to the size of an integer value that a computer can store, and it’s not really large enough when you talk about the numbers that come up in elections.

However, there is no similar upper limit on floating point numbers (numbers with decimal places). So it’s standard practice in programming, in such a scenario, to store the numbers as floating point numbers, even if no operations that might actually result in needing a decimal are going to be done.

[Religion and Politics]

The vote-counting machines probably worked just fine. It's just that they were counting many -- probably several million -- ballots that had been cast fraudulently. That's why none of the results changed even with multiple independently conducted recounts.

I've been saying this since November 2020. It's amazing how many people are too dull to figure this out even more than two years later -- while they're still waiting for Sidney Powell to release her stupid "Kracken."

Yep. Once in the batch, always in the batch during recounting. The electronic tabulation was not the problem. I don't even think running the same ballot through multiple times resulted in any count accuracy problems, but that is just my tech self understanding how ballot counting ought to be done and presuming it to be so.

[Observator]

There’s also the technical reason that any programmer can tell you: there’s an upper limit to the size of an integer value that a computer can store, and it’s not really large enough when you talk about the numbers that come up in elections.

However, there is no similar upper limit on floating point numbers (numbers with decimal places). So it’s standard practice in programming, in such a scenario, to store the numbers as floating point numbers, even if no operations that might actually result in needing a decimal are going to be done.

I hope you don't mind me quoting your entire response since your expertise is valuable. I don't have the data base expertise you do, although I do sometimes manage the IT department when the CIO is on vacation.

I always give them the same guidance. Since an INT stores 1 byte (saving a bit for the +/- sign), and a BIGINT is only double that, it's necessary to define most integer sums greater than 32,000 with FLOAT data types.

[Coronal]

Lindell got these from Dennis Montgomery who previously scammed the CIA and Joe Arpaio.

[Coronal]

The data packets were MS Word files containing a bunch of gibberish. The modification dates on the files were from the previous several weeks. That would not be the case if these were real data packets from 2020.

[VAFreedom]

they would ban me for calling Hillary oldbag.

[Fury]

As Mike was revealing the Packet Captures to the room, the camera started shaking and Mike yelled "WE'RE UNDER ATTACK!!"

I watched the Cyber Symposium and don't remember that happening at all.

I do remember Dennis Montgomery not showing up due to health reasons.

When the smoke cleared, the Packet Captures had been replaced by the gibberish we see now.

And how precisely does that happen? How are they "replaced"?

Lindell did some jackassin' and couldn't back it up.

All three arbitrators ruled in favor of Zeidman.

Pay up. Mike.

And you still haven't produced the packet captures.

[Fury]

Lindell got these from Dennis Montgomery who previously scammed the CIA and Joe Arpaio.

Don't forget the parts that "Mary Fanning" and Phil Waldron played in all this.

Lindell was not well served by his "advisors"

[Fury]

Due to the Threat Pattern, Lindell could not share the real data with Zeidman out of fear for his life.

Code for "Lindell knows he got bad data and is making 'stuff up"

[HYPOCRACY]

He found the files in somebody’s medicine chest.