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No Constitutional Right To Honk Your Car Horn, Court Says
Reason ^ | April 17, 2023 | Elizabeth Nolan Brown

Posted on 04/18/2023 8:09:31 AM PDT by Twotone

A federal appeals court says honking isn't First Amendment–protected activity. There's no constitutional right to honk your car horn, according to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.

The case involves Susan Porter, who repeatedly honked her car horn while driving past protesters in California in 2017. A deputy with the San Diego County Sheriff's Office issued Porter a ticket, saying she had violated a state law against misuse of car horns.

Porter pushed back, filing a federal lawsuit in 2018. In it, she alleged that honking her horn in solidarity with the protesters was protected First Amendment activity and that the California law used to ticket her—which prohibits using a car horn except "when reasonably necessary to insure safe operation" or when used "as a theft alarm system"—was unconstitutional.

A U.S. district court ruled against Porter, and now the 9th Circuit has upheld that lower court's ruling. For "the horn to serve its intended purpose as a warning device, it must not be used indiscriminately," wrote Judge Michelle Friedland for the majority.

But 9th Circuit judge Marsha Berzon thinks her colleagues got it wrong. In her dissent, Berzon noted that California cops are taught to use discretion when enforcing the horn-honking law, which could lead to selective (and discriminatory) enforcement. And Berzon scoffed at the idea that Porter honking while driving past a protest would be confused for anything but political speech.

"A political protest is designed to be noticed," wrote Berzon. "Political honking was hardly a significant source of noise or distraction in that environment. There is no basis for supposing that anyone was confused or distracted by the honking. Instead, Porter's honking was understood as political expression by the protesters, who cheered in response."

"Berzon also blasted the lower court's reliance on expert testimony by California Highway Patrol Sgt. William Beck," notes Courthouse News:

Beck said that car horns can startle and distract drivers and, if they're used indiscriminately, can "dilute the potency of the horn as a warning device." Berzon said Beck's testimony and the examples he gave amounted to opinion, not scientific fact.

"In none of these examples did Beck report any actual danger created by the honk. And, in any case, those examples were based on Beck's personal experience, no different from anyone else's experience with horn honking and so unrelated to any 'scientific, technical, or other specialized knowledge' or experience," Berzon wrote.

Plus, Berzon added, the point of a protest is to make noise to call attention to a cause or an issue—making it a free speech issue.

First Amendment Coalition legal director David Loy told The Washington Post that the court's decision "punishes a very common and ordinary form of political expression that people engage in every day."

"I was shocked that [California] law prohibits a common and widespread means of political, social, and personal expression," Loy said in a February interview on his group's website. "The government should not be stifling a critical form of expression, especially when public-health restrictions can curtail other means of assembly and protest, as we've sometimes seen during the COVID-19 pandemic. The statute at issue, Cal. Vehicle Code § 27001, allows horn use to give a warning but prohibits it to communicate any other message. As applied to expressive horn use, that is the essence of unconstitutional content-based discrimination."

California isn't alone in restricting expressive honking. Court rulings on these laws have been mixed, as Belmont law professor David L. Hudson, Jr. points out.

In a 1998 case, the Montana Supreme Court said protest-oriented honking "did not constitute a protest to government of government acts which would be entitled to protection under the First Amendment." A federal court in New York has also rejected the idea that horn honking is protected expressive conduct.

"However, at least one lower court has recognized a free expression challenge to a horn-honking law, albeit on state constitutional law grounds," Hudson notes. "The Oregon Court of Appeals, in City of Eugene v. Powlowski (Ore. App. 1992), ruled that a city law prohibiting horn honking for purposes other than a reasonable warning to another vehicle violated the free expression guarantee of Article 1, section 8 of the state constitution."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; carhorn; freespeech; honking
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1 posted on 04/18/2023 8:09:31 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

bookmark for later.... shaking head. lolol


2 posted on 04/18/2023 8:14:03 AM PDT by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Twotone

I’ve witnessed many people using their car horns for self expression. Usually combined with hand gestures using a raised middle finger to add to their message.


3 posted on 04/18/2023 8:15:05 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: rdcbn1

They were just displaying their IQ.


4 posted on 04/18/2023 8:18:09 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The road to tyranny is paved with compliance )
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To: Twotone
No Constitutional Right To Honk Your Car Horn

The is NO Constitutional right for a legislative body to regulate and make statutes against honking a car horn.

A free and sovereign People abiding by Common Law can honk as we please.

5 posted on 04/18/2023 8:18:55 AM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: C210N

States’ rights.

They can restrict it, but these laws are written to be open to interpretation by law enforcement if they want to enforce them or not.

An officer that disagrees with the use of a horn may write a ticket while another officer might not write a ticket.

It is very subjective and unclear.


6 posted on 04/18/2023 8:21:33 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Twotone

I remember the “Honk if You Love Jesus” bumperstickers. I guess that’s out. The Veterans for Peace sometimes demonstrate at the war memorial in Highland, Indiana (but only during Republican administrations) and they have signs asking drivers to honk if they agreed with them. I guess that’s out, too.


7 posted on 04/18/2023 8:29:11 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: Twotone

Even if the state’s argument might be correct, they obviously don’t ticket everyone who drives by a protest and honks in support. So by selectively enforcing this policy, it’s still unconstitutional, since they are using it for targeted political persecution.


8 posted on 04/18/2023 8:29:45 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

I remember seeing a bumper sticker on a car with Alabama license plates saying “HONK IF YOU HAVE TO POOP”.


9 posted on 04/18/2023 8:34:30 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: C210N

Sure there is. Noise pollution. Horns are for alerting other drivers that don’t appear to be seeing you. It’s not speech.


10 posted on 04/18/2023 8:38:33 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: MachIV

Well, that’s different!


11 posted on 04/18/2023 8:39:57 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: discostu

Regardless of it being “speech” or not “speech”, legislatures have no Constitutional jurisdiction over a Free People to do things that do no personal harm to others - Common Law.


12 posted on 04/18/2023 8:42:15 AM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Exceptions for emergency vehicles....
13 posted on 04/18/2023 8:43:14 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: C210N
No Constitutional Right To Honk Your Car Horn There is NO Constitutional right for a legislative body to regulate and make statutes against honking a car horn. A free and sovereign People abiding by Common Law can honk as we please. /\ //////// Exactly. Civil rights are negative rights. Its not what citizens can do It's what government CANT do Including not being able to tell a citizen when they can honk their horn. But in commie upside down world this is how they ' think'. 1-CDD4909-E32-A-4623-B879-3-DC18-D6-C3124 OT9f2uM .
14 posted on 04/18/2023 8:44:48 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: C210N

Noise pollution. Also confusing other drivers. They ABSOLUTELY have jurisdiction. The same jurisdiction that lets them set the speed limit and create traffic laws lets them say what horns (on the road, subject to all traffic laws) are used for. Now if you want to pull your car into your garage where it won’t bother your neighbors and blow your horn until you go deaf great, go for it. But on the public where the legislature makes the rules, you are subject to those rules.


15 posted on 04/18/2023 8:47:38 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Twotone

Most overturned Court in the country.

5.56mm


16 posted on 04/18/2023 8:48:18 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: Twotone

Just install an additional beeping device of some sort.

It will not be ‘the horn on your car’ which is for traffic purposes.

It will be a dedicated 1A communication device.

I don’t know what sound it should make, how different from a regular ‘honk’ it should be.

Maybe do not attach permanently.

It could look like a Bull Horn, they seem exempt these days.


17 posted on 04/18/2023 8:48:49 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: rdcbn1

Used to be that repeated car honking was a sign that someone had just gotten married, although I guess that could be thought of as a warning.


18 posted on 04/18/2023 8:49:04 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: M Kehoe

An example:. I use a bull HORN to shout down leftist and other vermin.

5.56mm


19 posted on 04/18/2023 8:50:08 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: Scrambler Bob
I don’t know what sound it should make...

It should blare out "MEN CAN GET PREGNANT!" and we'd get to watch the courts suddenly discover a new civil right.

20 posted on 04/18/2023 8:54:15 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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