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Florida lawmakers pursue death penalty in child rapes
CBS MIAMI ^ | APRIL 11, 2023 | CBS MIAMI TEAM

Posted on 04/12/2023 2:44:42 PM PDT by grimalkin

TALLAHASSEE - In a move that likely would spur a constitutional fight, Florida lawmakers appear ready to pass a proposal that would allow the death penalty for people who commit sexual battery on children under age 12.

The House is scheduled Thursday to take up its version of the bill (HB 1297), while the Senate version (SB 1342) was approved Tuesday by the Rules Committee, positioning it to go to the full Senate.

The proposal comes after decades of U.S. Supreme Court and Florida Supreme Court rulings that have said it is unconstitutional to execute defendants in rape cases. A Senate staff analysis said nobody has been executed for a non-murder crime in the United States since 1964.

In a rebuke of the court precedents, the House and Senate bills say that a 1981 Florida Supreme Court case and a 2008 U.S. Supreme Court case were "wrongly decided," with the Senate version saying "such cases are an egregious infringement of the state's power to punish the most heinous of crimes."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; children; crime; florida; hb1297; joebiden; rape; sb1342

1 posted on 04/12/2023 2:44:42 PM PDT by grimalkin
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To: grimalkin

SPJNK.


2 posted on 04/12/2023 2:46:30 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: grimalkin
Most homosexuals were sexually molested as children.

That IS "child rape".

3 posted on 04/12/2023 2:46:44 PM PDT by G Larry ( DEI = Division + Erroneous Indoctrination)
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To: grimalkin

Of course there’s a *very* good reason to execute child rapists.But there’s an even better reason not to: it gives the rapist an incentive to kill his victim.


4 posted on 04/12/2023 2:48:25 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Already ruled unconstitutional by the state Supreme Court and SCOTUS


5 posted on 04/12/2023 2:50:14 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: grimalkin

Good...


6 posted on 04/12/2023 2:59:28 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: G Larry
Most homosexuals were sexually molested as children.

I've heard some people say that and I've heard other people say it's a myth.

Do you have a trustworthy source?

7 posted on 04/12/2023 3:03:51 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”)
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To: grimalkin

A Senate staff analysis said nobody has been executed for a non-murder crime in the United States since 1964.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well for those who wonder why major cities all around the country have become increasingly unsafe since 1964, even in the daytime, there’s your answer right there!


8 posted on 04/12/2023 3:03:59 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: Carriage Hill

“SPJNK”

SOME PEOPLE JUST NEED KILLING ????????


9 posted on 04/12/2023 4:28:42 PM PDT by Ozguy1945 (, many others)
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To: Ozguy1945; Bob the builder


10 posted on 04/12/2023 4:37:39 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: grimalkin

While this may sound good on the surface. The same child can be murdered and there will be no death sentence. This ensures that molested children will be murdered.


11 posted on 04/12/2023 5:24:55 PM PDT by Revel
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To: darkangel82

The previous law was declared unconstitutional. If this new law attempts to “cure the defects” that caused the previous law to be found lacking by the courts, it could pass through judicial review.

Still a bad idea though because it creates an incentive to kill the victim. Rapists are alreadysociopaths with poor impulse control, let’s not incentivize victim/witness killing by making the punishment the same as murder.


12 posted on 04/12/2023 6:05:57 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: RoosterRedux
I have many.

I've offered dozens of times over the years to e-mail my MS Word doc. with links to the source material, to anyone willing to PM their e-mail to me.

Amazingly, some of those linked sources have been taken down, but several persist. Fortunately, I excerpted key summaries and they're included in the doc.

13 posted on 04/12/2023 9:22:09 PM PDT by G Larry ( DEI = Division + Erroneous Indoctrination)
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To: G Larry
Thx for that response. I don't really need an Excel spreadsheet. One a link to one or two good articles to help me get started on some research.

I have read some really solid studies over the years on how child molesters have themselves been victims of molestation, but I have never seen anything on the same premise for homosexuals.

And BTW, does this same principle work for lesbians (and perhaps even trannies).

I just need to be pointed in the right direction so I can do some research.

Thx again for you response.

14 posted on 04/13/2023 3:24:33 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”)
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To: RoosterRedux
larger study )

a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited

On page 37, the other relevant result relates to men.

The 13th research question addressed, of homosexual men who have been molested, what percentage were molested before self-identification as homosexual men, and what percentage were molested after self-identification as homosexual? Of homosexual men who were molested, 68% were molested before self-identification as homosexual, and 32% were molested after self-identification as homosexual.

15 posted on 04/13/2023 7:00:52 AM PDT by G Larry ( DEI = Division + Erroneous Indoctrination)
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To: G Larry

Thx much!


16 posted on 04/13/2023 7:06:05 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Bonhoeffer: “Silence in the face of evil is evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”)
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To: RoosterRedux

I can’t say if it is still true, as there is a social media and school-fueled social contagion right now that has exploded the numbers, but it was very clear from talking to them as recently as a decade ago.

That became clear to me long before I became aware that formal studies had also found that.

It also was a major part of people with hypersexualization issues.


17 posted on 04/13/2023 9:56:27 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: grimalkin
A Senate staff analysis said nobody has been executed for a non-murder crime in the United States since 1964.

And it shows.

Decision completely without foundation, should be challenged and reversed.

18 posted on 04/13/2023 9:58:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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