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Leaked documents detail dire assessments of Ukrainian army: reports
The Hill via Yahoo ^ | April 9th, 2023 | Lauren Sforza

Posted on 04/09/2023 7:17:15 AM PDT by Mariner

The classified documents apparently leaked last week detail the weaknesses in the Ukrainian army, specifically shortfalls of ammunition and air defense, according to reports.

The Washington Post reported that one of the leaked Pentagon documents detailed that Ukraine’s air defense may not be able to protect the front lines through the end of May. One of the documents included an assessment from February from the Defense Department’s Joint Staff, which said Ukraine’s “ability to provide medium range air defense to protect the [front lines] will be completely reduced by May 23,” according to the Post.

The reported classified document also says once Ukraine’s first layer of defense munitions run out, the “2nd and 3rd Layer expenditure rates will increase, reducing the ability to defend against Russian aerial attacks from all altitudes.”

Both the Justice Department and the Defense Department are investigating the apparent leak of classified documents after Russian sources posted them to online websites, like Twitter. The documents are dated from March or earlier of this year, and appear to include information on Ukrainian training, munition expenditures and estimated casualties from both Ukraine and Russia. The documents do not appear to have plans for a Ukrainian counter offensive expected for this spring.

The Post also reported that another document shows how quickly the Ukraine’s air defense projectiles will deplete, saying that SA-11 systems will be depleted by April 13, NASAMs, made by the U.S., will be expended by April 15 and SA-8s will be gone by May. Another chart appears to suggest that Ukrainian air defense focus on Russian jets and helicopters and ignore smaller threats, like drones, in light of the expected shortfalls, according to the Post.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dienazisdie; eurowars4euroweenies; eurowhores; putinholsters; ukenazisgoingdown; warpigs
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To: MeganC

You are needed in Ukraine. Let me know which flight you will be on. I will bring flowers to the airport for you.


21 posted on 04/09/2023 7:46:36 AM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: PGR88

By the way, calling Kyiv “the Azov regime” makes as much sense as calling the US government “the 101st Airborne regime”.

It’s nonsensical to propose that a mere military unit sets national policy in any country.


22 posted on 04/09/2023 7:47:00 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: entropy12

Die angry, dooshbag.


23 posted on 04/09/2023 7:47:33 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: escapefromboston

> Maybe the documents are faked or leaked on purpose. Who knows

Absolutely. Us nobodies will learn what is actually happening MAYBE in a couple of years.


24 posted on 04/09/2023 7:47:34 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: PIF

Anyone remember the Pentagon’s “Early Bird”?

Not official news of the day.

Those docs reminded me of that.


25 posted on 04/09/2023 7:48:37 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Gov't declaring misinformation is tyranny: “Who determines what false information is?” )
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To: Mariner

Is this leak an actual, unauthorized leak, or psyops?


26 posted on 04/09/2023 7:48:56 AM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: MeganC

You just clueless on how broke USA is, aren’t you?
I wonder how much debt you have.


27 posted on 04/09/2023 7:49:49 AM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Mariner

The article says Bachmut was almost encircled in February.
It’s April and they aren’t being encircled. They are being pushed back to defensive positions further West. They still hold some of the city itself.

Drones? Ukraine produced 50,000 of its own cheap drones.

Document didn’t mention the coming Spring offensive. That was and is the main focus and not even mentioned.

As for running out of air defense missiles, they must have received more because they are planning on moving Patriots up to the front line for the offensive.

I don’t predict the outcome of a war, but all your breathless “The world was lied to!” is so much bs.

The battle lines and the Russian frustration are undeniably visible for the whole world to see.

Are the Russians lying? Because they have been warning they are vulnerable for months.


28 posted on 04/09/2023 7:51:59 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: entropy12

Zero. Zilch. Nada.

We are not debt slaves.


29 posted on 04/09/2023 7:52:24 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

We were in Iraq for years.

If the goal is to completely destroy everything, both Russia and the US have the firepower to wipe countries off the map.

Russia never wanted to do that.

They wanted to annex the Donbass region. Ukraine killed 14,000 of its own people there, broke the Minsk Accord, and overthrew a duly elected leader to install the puppet Zelensky, all at the behest of the US.

Why do people think Zelensky is so arrogant in demanding support from us? He’s fighting a proxy war with Russia on our behalf.

WE started this war, not Russia.
WE are the warmonger in this conflict, not Russia.
WE are the ones who quashed peace talks in April of last year, not Russia.

I have lost all faith in our government and yet again, the media is pushing lies.


30 posted on 04/09/2023 7:53:45 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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To: Macoozie

“Wait til the Malaca Straits ChiCom “Toll” is implemented.”

China doesn’t have total dominion over the TAIWAN Strait, much less Malacca.

Malacca is the USN’s chokepoint for China.


31 posted on 04/09/2023 7:54:00 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MeganC
It was supposed to be over in ten days...Home by Christmas...the Yankees will never fight...Japs flying torpedo planes? They are all nearsighted...and so on

War as a study is fascinating.

Your "own the Russians" rhetoric - "it was supposed to be over in ten days" - means nothing in an arena where shells, bullets, and bombs, not postmodern irony, determine the outcome.

The Soviet war against Germany was a lot closer to over in 1941, and again in 1942, than the Russian war against Ukraine.

The German could SEE THE KREMLIN from forward positions in December 1941. Imagine the Twitter memes on THAT day!

But

Only raising the Red flag over the Reichstag turned out to be important.

32 posted on 04/09/2023 7:54:16 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: meyer

I’m leaning towards psyops.


33 posted on 04/09/2023 7:54:32 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: entropy12

The word neocon has to be the most ignorantly misused term in History.
Placing the word “neocon” in every sentence does not cover for your ignorance.


34 posted on 04/09/2023 7:54:33 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Mariner

“...as total collapse once every last defender of Bhakmut”

Oooh, so after eight months of fighting to capture Bhakmut Russia will take a city hundreds of miles from Kiev and then call victory for their war of conquest? Pfffft. The Soviet Union took comparable casualties capturing Vienna, a capital city, in four weeks. The Soviet Union didn’t declare the war over. They were the defender and Soviet troops believed in their government.

Russia has lost.


35 posted on 04/09/2023 7:55:29 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Alas Babylon!

if I saw it, I’ve long ago forgotten

Here’s the current version:
https://www.defensenews.com/ebb/


36 posted on 04/09/2023 7:55:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Jim Noble

Wow you’re brilliant. Ever hear of Russia losing any wars? Cause it happened a lot.


37 posted on 04/09/2023 7:55:56 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Mariner

Very soon, the Bidet war whores in the white shed will have to make a clear choice.

Either get involved directly in this conflict of pull out and do damage control when the rest of the NATO countries finally realize the USA is not to be trusted at all anymore. The merc forces in country arent doing the job..not enough, and cant get the support from the little shagging grifter in Kiev.

I suspect the stupid is strong and they will send in US military forces.


38 posted on 04/09/2023 7:56:25 AM PDT by crz
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To: TheWriterTX

No, Russia’s goal this time last year was the total conquest of Ukraine under the proposal that it wasn’t a ‘real country’.

That narrative was endlessly parroted here by the Russian troll farm and they made clear this was never intended to be a limited war.


39 posted on 04/09/2023 7:57:32 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: TheWriterTX

Why don’t you move to Russia you have every excuse in the world for those murderous pos.


40 posted on 04/09/2023 7:57:52 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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