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1 posted on 03/29/2023 4:06:33 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Politico: Estonia’s EPF actions were ‘completely legal’
3/29/23

A report Tuesday which stated that Estonia had been upgrading its own defenses at the expense of other European Union Member States does not mean that Estonia has acted in any way other than “completely legally”, Politico, which published the initial article making the claims, said Wednesday. ...

Much of the equipment in question, such as 105mm howitzers sent to Ukraine last year, is dated, but the reimbursement has been calculated on the basis of new replacement equipment, rather than the much lower figures that the current market value of the older weaponry would entail.

At the same time, Estonia is only one of half-a-dozen EU Member States, including Finland and Lithuania, who have done the same, Politico itself states.

In its “Brussels Playbook” section [link at URL] Politico notes that what Estonia has done, namely replacing older military equipment supplied to Ukraine with newer equipment, funded by the EPF, is “completely legal. ...”

https://news.err.ee/1608930131/politico-estonia-s-epf-actions-were-completely-legal


2 posted on 03/29/2023 4:07:55 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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So, as was said, NATO sends scrap arms To Ukraine while upgrading Its own arsenal with EU funds.

Estonia, a NATO member (and at least a half dozen other members) are allegedly exploiting the European Peace Facility (EPF) funds to renew their own weapons while sending old stocks to Kyiv, according to the Politico report.

Politico is obviously pro-Putin.


3 posted on 03/29/2023 4:08:50 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Pedo Z doesn’t care. He probably doesn’t even open the crates to look. He just sells the stuff for the $$.


4 posted on 03/29/2023 4:09:09 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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Estonia claimed they destroyed those guns


5 posted on 03/29/2023 4:10:16 PM PDT by mylife (Big Donald J Trump socks psychology on the jaw...)
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Yes, they're billing out the old junk as "brand new", and skimming the EU slush fund for replacement value, just as The Duran guys predicted that some of the EU slush funders would.

The Duran knows their EU kleptocrats...

6 posted on 03/29/2023 4:10:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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nothing wrong with
rotating the stock


10 posted on 03/29/2023 4:15:23 PM PDT by RockyTx
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Ukraine is a European problem not an American one. Europe can do whatever it wants and they can deal however with countries in the EU.


11 posted on 03/29/2023 4:15:24 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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They even launder their old weapons now

My surprised face - 😏


19 posted on 03/29/2023 4:25:40 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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Seems like a pretty smart scam.

However, Does no one else find it a bit ironic that “European Peace Facility” is actually a weapons funding scheme?


20 posted on 03/29/2023 4:26:13 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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sounds reasonable, I dont think anyone is sending the latest cutting edge tech. You send what you can in situations like this and a slightly out of date weapon is better than nothing


21 posted on 03/29/2023 4:27:31 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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That was what was supposed to happen.

The program is operating as intended.


22 posted on 03/29/2023 4:29:13 PM PDT by jdege
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Good way to eliminate old weapons and upgrade to new ones.
Sounds like a plan to me.


23 posted on 03/29/2023 4:29:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It is not how many that go into Mexico that counts. It is how many that return from Mexico.)
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Kinda smart


26 posted on 03/29/2023 4:37:32 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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An explosive report has blown the lid off a NATO nation's 'sham' support for Ukraine.

NATO support for Ukraine has always been more symbolic than substantive. In the West, virtue signaling is far more important than achieving actual results. Look back at our entire COVID policy.

28 posted on 03/29/2023 4:49:20 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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There is nothing new about this, that was among the benefits of Ukraine’s success in fighting off the Russians to the point they started receiving large support, we ship them our old weapons and replace the old stock with new.

I have been posting on that for most of the last year, and it has been written about frequently in the media.

We not only get fresh and modernized weapons in our warehouses we also got rid of close-to-end-of-life weapons that we were going to have to pay high prices to dispose of.

Not only do we get rid of end-of-life weapons and old stock, but they are also being used against the very enemy they were built to be used against and destroying their stuff.


30 posted on 03/29/2023 4:53:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Yes. That is exactly what is happening.

  1. US and NATO send mostly left overs to Ukraine.
  2. Ukraine degrades Russian military for their own and everyone else's benefit.
  3. NATO boosts defense spending and buys new equipment.
  4. Russian military no longer a threat for a couple decades.
    (Except when defending Russia. No one will invade Russia.)
Guess what? ITS WORKING.

If Russia finds this unacceptable, then Russia can leave Ukraine.

33 posted on 03/29/2023 5:13:25 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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It’s only appropriate.


36 posted on 03/29/2023 5:56:11 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Ask her how too say 12 months , in Estonian


37 posted on 03/29/2023 6:30:29 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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And if they’d have just junked their old weapons; would the outcry be nearly the same?


39 posted on 03/29/2023 6:52:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Waaaah!

You could have given those to Ukraine!


40 posted on 03/29/2023 6:52:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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