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Ron Johnson casts doubts on continued U.S. aid helping Ukraine in its fight against Russia, calls for negotiations to begin
MJS via Yahoo ^ | March 29th, 2023 | Lawrence Andrea, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

Posted on 03/29/2023 8:31:18 AM PDT by Mariner

WASHINGTON – U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson this week expressed doubts over the impact of continued U.S. assistance to Ukraine in its fight against Russia, calling the war unwinnable for either side and suggesting the warring nations need to negotiate an end to the conflict.

“At some point people are going to have to understand the reality of the situation,” the Wisconsin Republican told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Tuesday. “I don’t see a scenario, and I’ve asked — I mean, where is there a path to victory from our standpoint? All I see is a grinding stalemate that day-by-day more people get killed and more of Ukraine gets destroyed.”

Johnson said the war is a “lose-lose-lose for everybody” and added: “Nobody can win at this point. They should start negotiating.”

The comments come as Republicans have become increasingly divided on whether to continue providing financial aid and military equipment to help Ukraine defend itself against the Russian invasion. Much of the dissent has spawned from a far-right faction of House Republicans who have derided Washington’s spending on the war and called for a “peace agreement.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: angryneoconsbelow; biden; neocons4biden; putin; ronjohnson; russia; senatorjohnson; ukraine; zelensky; zelenskyworshippers
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Too much going on in Russia to trust them with a whole lot of money.

Robert Reich, Sec Dept. Labor, famously said;

"If I was a young man with a thousand dollars to invest, I would invest a thousand dollars in Russia. If I was a young man with a million dollars to invest, I would invest a thousand dollars in Russia."

41 posted on 03/29/2023 10:29:56 AM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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To: Mariner

Trump could have handled it better.

He has a list of good accomplishments.


42 posted on 03/29/2023 10:34:04 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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To: webheart
It would be funny if Afghanistan had actually executed the first 9/11. Other than that your arguments are worth considering.

Not funny, but, the leaders of Al-Qaeda resided in Afghanistan. The leader of invaders in Ukraine resides in Russia. The leader of the Chinese threat resides in China.


43 posted on 03/29/2023 10:35:49 AM PDT by adorno
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To: Mariner

“ Either Ukraine negotiates now, or later when the the US cuts them off.

Their choice.

Only Ukrainian partisans care either way.”
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I don;t give a rat’s ass whether the Ukrainians negotiate or not. I just want to END ALL American involvement. And I do mean ALL.


44 posted on 03/29/2023 10:37:38 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: Chauncey Gardiner
Facts? Facts! FACTS?!?!

Facts mean NOTHING when you are communicating with a ZEeper on FR. Unfortunately, there are PLENTY on FR Here'sone now!


45 posted on 03/29/2023 10:41:15 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: Brellium

Yep.

His post was for you


46 posted on 03/29/2023 10:41:57 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

All we are saying is give peace a chance!


47 posted on 03/29/2023 10:58:36 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Mariner
Prog Socialist Democrats, Deep Swamp Traitors, NeoCon Warmonger Republicans and Zelensky's Ukraine are united in one enterprise:

If only they can fool everyone until there is none of Legacy America left to save.

48 posted on 03/29/2023 11:10:48 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: BobL

Zeepers have lost the argument and should just go back to doing their work at GOPe headquarters
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49 posted on 03/29/2023 11:17:37 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: Mariner
Yep.

His post was for you

Odd, I seem to have missed where I was tagged on that comment.

What color was that short bus you took to this forum again?

50 posted on 03/29/2023 11:34:45 AM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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To: Vision

Agree. NATO has gone on and on. It was supposed to be 10 years only for our USA. I was in Germany in 57-60 as my father was active duty. Why are we still in South Korea. Obama and Biden have trashed the USA. We need our manufacturing jobs back. We built everything we needed in WWII here in America.


51 posted on 03/29/2023 11:40:42 AM PDT by Lumper20 (Ham)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

You’re so right. Trump’s accomplishments show that he is the only politician in the United States and, indeed, the world who can bring this horrible conflict to an end. That’s why I have decided to support him for president in 2024. There is just nobody else.


52 posted on 03/29/2023 11:45:01 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Brellium

Dude...if that’s how you identify...the post resonated with you.

I saw it as merely an ignorant attempt at logic in extremis.

But you agree with it.

So yeah, it was for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_extreme


53 posted on 03/29/2023 12:53:38 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: libstripper

I also will not give up on getting MY VOTE COUNTED for DT!

If only the eGOP pu***** would do their job, i’ll call it ‘ballot revenge vote’ or something to make our elections safe-proof!


54 posted on 03/29/2023 2:45:23 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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To: Mariner

good for Johnson
not our monkeys, not our circus
not another penny for ukraine


55 posted on 03/29/2023 5:32:03 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Mariner
"“Nobody can win at this point.... "

That is totally wrong; Russia has basically won the war as of now.

56 posted on 03/29/2023 8:35:52 PM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: adorno
It's not just a choice between isolationism vs global involvement, it's about having credible and consistent domestic and foreign policy with defined objectives.

We don't want China to take Taiwan, but we let China take over much of our manufacturing base and help them to become an economic power. We allow politicians (not just the Bidens) to cut deals with China that give China more power and influence. We let our taxpayer funded NIH send grant money to China for ‘research’ that likely led to a pandemic that caused millions of deaths, reset world politics (including affecting our own presidential election), and ushered in more government control of people's lives.

We don't want Afghanistan to become a staging area for terrorism, but we gave them weapons and financing so they could fight the USSR (i.e. Operation Cyclone), and then gave them more in 2001 just before 9/11 occurred. Then we go in militarily to Afghanistan, ‘freeing’ it, all so we could then pull out haphazardly during the first year of the Biden administration - leaving chaos, a lot of military hardware, and with the Taliban back in charge.

Etc., etc. (e.g. the feckless Iran nuclear deal).

So, if you are going to ask Americans to sacrifice more and more, including potentially the lives of their sons and daughters, you first have to fix the feckless disaster the US government and its expanded bureaucracy has been for decades.

57 posted on 03/30/2023 4:24:30 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Brellium
Bookmarked, because it's funny and true.
58 posted on 04/02/2023 1:18:39 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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