Posted on 03/23/2023 7:24:37 PM PDT by conservative98
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is not making any presidential campaign announcements before the end of his state's legislative session, but he is sure talking like he will be throwing his hat in the 2024 GOP presidential primary race.
And, he told Newsmax in an exclusive interview Thursday night, you can forget about him working with former President Donald Trump.
"I think I'm probably more of an executive guy," DeSantis told "Eric Bolling The Balance." "I think that you want to be able to do things. That's part of the reason I got into this job is because we have action.
"We're able to make things happen, and I think that's probably what I am best suited for."
Host Eric Bolling asked, since DeSantis has yet to announce — current Florida law would force him to step down as governor if he did — would he entertain an invitation from a prospective GOP-nominee Trump to be his vice president?
He laughed it off with the response above.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
I addressed this, as some sort of internet gossip, that I don’t see worthy of factual-izing to any degree. I said if you want to bring up internet stories there are many much worse about Trump.
Well actually you said none of those things. You referred to the Rubin comment as rumor, which it isn’t. A rumor is unsourced. Rubin’s comments, whether true or not, are not rumor, but allegation.
“I said if you want to bring up internet stories there are many much worse about Trump.”
Absolutely right. And you’ve always been more than happy to bring them up. Now that something regarding DeSantis pops up, you’ve suddenly decided that discussing such things is beneath you. But you’re amusing, I’ll give you that.
When the time comes, I hope you will volunteer to be Ron’s debate coach.
You have the most excellent rebuttals anywhere to the mystical, magical Trump cult.
You heard wrong.
But what exactly is your point anyway?
James Madison was 5’4”.
Benjamin Harrison was 5’6”.
John Adams and Harry Truman were 5’7”.
Jimmy Carter is 5’9”.
FDR was about four feet tall in his wheelchair.
You play their game, they win—and destroying rule of law is part of their game. In the maxim “politics is a dirty business”, the word “dirty” is not synonymous with “lawless”, or else it isn’t politics but tyranny.
“Name of the game is to win” “Can Trump beat Biden”
Winning: If folks focused on winning where it matters (local gov, house reps), we wouldn’t be in this spot. Ohio is red because of the legislature not the RINO governor. Everyone puts all their energy in the presidency. Truth be told, the presidency has little to no power domestically. President issues an EO, the next President cancels it. Congress dictates laws and bureaucrats screw the people. Congress decides who runs the agencies. The president cannot fire or hire millions of bureaucrats. The president cannot tell states what to do. Neither can Congress. Aside from foreign policy (and even that is sabotaged by bureaucrats and politicians), the most a president can do is motivate voters to be active. Only voters can stop the deep state by electing real fighters throughout gov.
Our real enemy isn’t the Democrat politicians even though they are evil, it is the bureaucracy. Imagine millions of voters calling their representatives daily…..but they don’t. So our representatives do nothing. Voters DO NOT pressure government and they should. Winning the presidency is merely symbolic but doesn’t fix the problem. Biden isn’t running the country. Trump didn’t either. The bureaucracy runs it. The bureaucracy sabotaged every request Trump made. The last 5 presidents have had the same results in general. Trump was an exception on some things because all agencies, politicians and deep state hated him so much they doubled their corruption. They didn’t hate him per say, they hated how many active supporters he had. Gov felt pressure from the voters. A first! These two differences created mass chaos and red-pilling. They fear us. And if we don’t have a motivating leader, the movement dies. I’m more interested in winning the war (deep state) than the battle (presidency). DeSantis may be conservative but he doesn’t have the skillset to motivate voters like Trump can.
So……can Trump win the general, probably not. Will DeSantis win? Depends on who the deep state wants. If DeSantis wins, he will have the same results as every other president minus the active voter base. We will return to Bush era minor gains and everyone will go back to sleep. I lay all of this out to point out the bigger picture - winning the presidency will only make a difference if the voters pressure gov. I don’t see DeSantis creating that dynamic.
Note: If anyone thinks that McCain was the only senator that would vote against repealing Obamacare, I have a bridge to sell you. Our reps are mostly ‘controlled opposition’ RINOs. Democrats have the same setup to control the ‘Bernie’s’. They are all paid by the same donors. If McCain didn’t do it, they would have had someone else do it. Why do you think our reps stump for MurCOWski, Collins, Romney etc.? They are used to cover for the other RINOs. Same happens in the House. In my view, 90% of republicans need to be replaced. These are the subjects we should be focusing on. But the public wastes all of their time on the ‘presidency’. Let’s win the war!
I’m asking that you look at the bigger picture…..WE are the real power, not the politicians. Will we use it? Will we continue to fight without Trump? No. Gaetz, MTG and Lake have tried and failed to get enough people. Much like many others over time. The tea party died because it did not have a dynamic leader that instilled action. No one has ever matched Trump’s following. Ohio is still covered with Trump signs and flags 3 yrs later. Why? Who cares as long as it keeps voters engaged..
We don’t vote for the bureaucracy.
And we also don’t get to vote for POTUS now.
Fraud denial won’t get us anywhere.
They weren’t going to end lockdowns. He knew that. They were going to lock us down, crash the economy, put us on government dole, make us slaves. He kept saying we had to end lockdowns.
He didn’t create the vax - documentation exists it was in circulations before the fake ‘pandemic’. The MSM DNC had convinced thepublic to stay home outof fear. He could not end the indoctrination. They had a vaccine but they didn’t want to let us out of lockdown - they almost had us slaves as intended.
He waved money in their faces and got them to compete for massive billion contracts and suddenly there was a vax and no more reason for locking us down. He never mandated the vax and he talked about alternatives. He couldn’t think for us to push us to the right decision - he could only free America and hope they help each other think for themselvse
He is NOT responsible for the mandates. He doesn’t believe in them and he doesn’t believe in locking down Americans and making us slaves. There were no normal safe sane conditions you speak of. Hillary was supposed to win and she was going to make the vax mandatory. But Trump won and they had to try another way. Mandates were never Trump’s goal nor were lockdowns. He wanted AMericans to stand up and say ‘no’ when our leadership became tyranical but instead Americans went home and put on masks. The enemy had these weapons and these plans for years, but Trump winning threw their schedule off. They had us lockded down and almost finished us off, but he set us free.
"I'ba think'ba da I'm probabably
more-ba of an executive guy-ba.
I'ba think'ba that you'ba want to
beba able-ba to do ba-things."
“We don’t vote for bureaucracy”
No we don’t and I said nothing about denying fraud. Fraud has been rampant on many levels starting with the media and ending with illegal voting.
My point: only voters pressuring politicians will make changes to the bureaucracy. They will not and have not done anything to address bureaucracy. Voters have the power if they use it, plain and simple.
I don’t deal with Trump internet rumors, there’s more than enough headlines of him shooting his own feet off, misleading his supporters, etc. As far as that YouTube guy you like so much, all I saw was some sort of homo language I couldn’t even understand, so again, no thanks.
Then he is a serial liar.
"...NOT responsible for the mandates..."
There would be nothing to mandate if not for his selfish populist Warp Speed gamble - which failed hugely.
I respect your good works here. You are free to forgive the horrendous, deadly failures of The Don.
I understand why people want to rationalize the failures, we had big hope for Trump and he did do some good things.
Same as the prior 2 Bushes. Who were at times much more popular than SuperDon ever was or will be. Donald J Bush destroyed Bush II for directly analogous well-intentioned deadly failure. And Bush II fans gave the same excuses as Trump fans today.
If Ron wants to play it as I'm sure Don would in his shoes, then:
Ron is to Don as Don was to Bush.
DJBush III's failure was much harder on America than was Bush II's. And we don't have a full body count yet.
I did not wish this to be true, it just is.
I will hold my nose and vote for Bush III in the general if he is the R winner.
Those who promise not to vote if their candidate loses the primary are unhelpful and disloyal to our Free Republic.
Trump offers amnesty to Dreamers
That “internet guy” is named David Rubin. He’s had a show on BlazeTV since 2019.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Rubin
“All I saw was some sort of homo language I couldn’t even understand”
O.K., then let me transcribe it for you.
Rubin: “Everyone’s running around [saying] DeSantis hates gays, blah, blah, blah. I happen to be gay. I am married to a dude, Okay? We’re having kids. You know what showed up at my door two days ago? A package with two - we’re having two babies - with two baby onesies from Ron DeSantis and his wife”
Offscreen voice: “Get out of here”
Rubin: “He does not hate gay people. At this Prager U event that I mentioned before, I introduced - I said, Governor, this is my husband David. Big hug, smile, took a picture, “congratulations on the kid”. This has nothing to do with an assault on gay rights. If DeSantis was saying “gay people can’t get married”, “gay people can’t work” - whatever the litany of stupidity that these people think, of course I would be against it. There’s nothing I stand for more”.
What part of that were you having trouble understanding?
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Gov. Ron DeSantis to Newsmax: Forget Trump Ticket, I'm 'an Executive Guy', BuddhaBrown wrote: "...He didn’t create the vax..." Then he is a serial liar.
He repeatedly talked about he he made the vax obtainable, he implemented production mechanisms that made those who produced the vax do so in record time in order to break the lockdowns and set Americans free. So many don't realize that we were never supposed to be free again. If he hadn't expedited the vax, we would be enslaved like the Chinese, with our economy collapsed and all of us under government control in exchange for food and housing.
"...NOT responsible for the mandates..."
There would be nothing to mandate if not for his selfish populist Warp Speed gamble - which failed hugely.
We would be slaves living on government handouts in exchange for obedience if Warp Speed failed and they collapsed the economy and kept us locked down.
He set Americans free from captivity, but you don't know that and you call his rescue 'selfishness'.
I respect your good works here. You are free to forgive the horrendous, deadly failures of The Don.
I understand why people want to rationalize the failures, we had big hope for Trump and he did do some good things.
I don't know if you noticed, but he's still the only one fighting, and winning in his progress, to free us from the Deep State. Just so you know....
Same as the prior 2 Bushes. Who were at times much more popular than SuperDon ever was or will be. Donald J Bush destroyed Bush II for directly analogous well-intentioned deadly failure. And Bush II fans gave the same excuses as Trump fans today.
The Bushes were Deep State Traitors and as such, nothing like Trump.
If Ron wants to play it as I'm sure Don would in his shoes, then:
Ron is to Don as Don was to Bush.
DJBush III's failure was much harder on America than was Bush II's. And we don't have a full body count yet.
~Ron is but one rhino with no plan to fight the deep state. Ron never went through the trials by fire President Trump went through from day 1. Trump has been under unprecedented attack, because he is an unprecedented threat to our enemies.
I did not wish this to be true, it just is.
All of it is part of a false narrative. Strangely, some Americans prefer anyone but the one person who's been working to save us, has the most support and is strong enough for the task, for 6 + years.
I will hold my nose and vote for Bush III in the general if he is the R winner.
Those who promise not to vote if their candidate loses the primary are unhelpful and disloyal to our Free Republic.
Trump will return in an unprecedented long term strategy that as he says, will destroy the Deep State. There's no one else with the means, support or will to do it.
Here’s a video of Rubin interviewing Ron DeSantis.
How are you going to hide from this one?
that’s a great article...
what’s your problem?...
No problem here.
No, it won’t. Too many make-believe voters now.
The vice president is an executive position.
Of course he can’t acknowledge interest. He’s trying to win the main prize. I don’t fault him for that. This next election is his best shot if he doesn’t become VP.
But, obviously, the VP of a 1 term president is HUGE!
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