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Putin demands more exports to be directed to Africa under new Black Sea deal
News 24 ^ | 3/22/2023 | Lenin Ndebele

Posted on 03/23/2023 12:03:15 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: hinckley buzzard

I try.


21 posted on 03/23/2023 1:48:42 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: hinckley buzzard; Navy Patriot

“Glad at least somebody here gets what is happening out there.”

Me too!


22 posted on 03/23/2023 1:49:19 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Navy Patriot

Or that the US will set a condition of allowing faggotry in exchange for Aid.


23 posted on 03/23/2023 1:52:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Or that the US will set a condition of allowing faggotry in exchange for Aid.

I agree that the US does often require that endorsement of deviancy from Foreign Nations.

I did skip over making that point in this thread.

Thanks for helping me be more complete.

24 posted on 03/23/2023 2:02:13 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: jimwatx

so when our prices for flour and bread go up, we can correctly blame Putin


25 posted on 03/23/2023 3:52:28 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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No I would blame the Dems and the neocons for inflation.


26 posted on 03/23/2023 6:41:08 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: KarlInOhio; marcusmaximus; dfwgator; Captain Compassion; canuck_conservative; Navy Patriot; PIF; ...

If Putin was even a tiny bit serious about helping African and other hungry countries, they would immediately agree to a plan to withdraw, so both Russia and Ukraine can get the spring planting. Are either Ukraine or Russia actually going to get adequate amount of planting done with Ukraine being bombed, and Putin chasing his young men out of the country or sending them to the front to get killed?

If Putin refuses to leave, perhaps Xi can pursuade him to agree not to bomb agricultural lands and equipment depots in Ukraine if Ukraine agrees not to position military assets in designated agricultural areas, and to not target against Russian agriculture that is not near military assets.

Does anyone have information on how much of Russian and Ukrainian export agriculture is going to be reduced this year compared with 2022? I would think Xi would also have concerns regarding the availability of enough world market grain to feed his people the pork and chicken they have come to expect and need for military health.


27 posted on 03/25/2023 11:35:50 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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Wonderful idea. Who can talk to Xi? Biden can’t. Is there an African leader or two who could? Zelensky wants to talk with Xi but would Xi take him seriously? I don’t know. Xi wouldn’t want to upset putin.


28 posted on 03/26/2023 1:53:08 AM PDT by Sunsong
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Basically Russia is out of the export business. Russian ships can’t get the insurance necessary to carry cargo to many ports. No grain, no oil. Interesting discussion on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTMEf8WIE6c&list=PLmsTH1JoPgu-kigzLBIoF-Xv_LfXReRrD&index=22&t=2827s


29 posted on 03/26/2023 6:25:46 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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So when our prices for flour and bread go up, we can correctly blame Biden, Democrats and NeoCons.

There, fixed it for ya.

30 posted on 03/26/2023 6:53:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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If Biden’s America was even a tiny bit serious about helping African and other hungry countries, they would immediately agree to a plan to withdraw American interference, support, and weapons from Ukraine, so both Russia and Ukraine can get the spring planting.


31 posted on 03/26/2023 6:57:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: gleeaikin

Africa as a whole includes very rich agricultural areas. Some countries like Namibia are not overly blessed with the best lands for cultivation. Still, one should not think of Africa as unable to generate its own food surpluses. As always, African governments that push “land reform” and the expropriation of successful farms are not doing any favors for agricultural production.


32 posted on 03/26/2023 7:18:58 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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There is an interesting article in the most recent Nstional Geographic regarding probable population trends. A segment on Nigeria which is expected to be more populous than the US before many decades speaks of problems in northern Nigeria for larger farmers. Covid has caused an increase in banditry, and successful farmers are being robbed and reducing their business activity. A good way to starve a country in the long run. India soon will have more population than China, Nigeria will be third, and the US fourth before long.


33 posted on 03/27/2023 3:05:04 AM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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