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DeSantis' Ukraine u-turn: Florida Governor now says his 'territorial dispute' comments were 'mischaracterized', calls Putin a war criminal and says Russia is 'basically a gas station with a nuclear weapons'
Daily Mail ^ | March 22, 2023 | Geoff Earle

Posted on 03/22/2023 6:11:33 PM PDT by McGruff

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis sought to clean up comments where he called Russia's brutal war on Ukraine a 'territorial dispute' after drawing rebukes against 'isolationism' but praise from Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

'Well, I think it's been mischaracterized. Obviously, Russia invaded — that was wrong. They invaded Crimea and took that in 2014 — That was wrong,' DeSantis told Piers Morgan in an interview more than a week after his initial comments.

He also rolled out tough talk against Russian President Vladimir Putin, calling him a 'war criminal' and saying he should be 'held accountable,' while dissing Russia as 'basically a gas station with a bunch of nuclear weapons' during a week when Putin huddled with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Moscow.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
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The way to manage the Putin file is keep your mouth shut, minimize the consequences, and wait for the (man) to pass, then deal with the next (man) in the office, try to make friends and lower tensions.

Putin has a personality type that is easy to diagnose, push him a bit and he’ll push back harder. And he has nukes, and the sort of military that only has to be on its B- game to do a lot of harm.

Reagan’s skill with Gorbachev will only be fully appreciated centuries from now when every other approach can be compared. Of course Gorbachev was not Putin. But we threw away all the good will we had with Russia around 2003 or so, over Syria and other things we got totally wrong.

Now we’re trying to force Russia to like rainbow crosswalks.

We are not smart. That doesn’t mean we deserve to die in a nuclear holocaust. Equally, RDS seems like a very capable man in his element, which apparently is not geopolitics at this point in time.


141 posted on 03/22/2023 9:28:49 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (We will never be safe until every last balloon is shot down, oops not that one, oh well)
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To: McGruff

Ron, I think you might’ve just screwed the pooch.


142 posted on 03/22/2023 9:30:11 PM PDT by tomkat (SOTU = FUBAR)
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To: McGruff

Total Douche.


143 posted on 03/22/2023 9:33:11 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (lol Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: Rockingham

Yep


144 posted on 03/22/2023 9:44:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: HYPOCRACY

It’s Obama he quoted, I believe. Yes, it’s disqualifying.


145 posted on 03/22/2023 9:46:32 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Thanks!

I can see some things coming from a mile away. LOL.

146 posted on 03/23/2023 3:03:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: McGruff

Hopefully the damage Zbots and Ronbots have done to FR will start to subside now.


147 posted on 03/23/2023 4:30:01 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: stanne

Die-hard - heh?


148 posted on 03/23/2023 4:55:03 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: JennysCool

Remember when we all fawned over Rubio - and how he turned out?

That’s the feeling I get about DeSantis.


149 posted on 03/23/2023 4:56:16 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: trebb

“Die-hard - heh?”

Huh?


150 posted on 03/23/2023 4:57:20 AM PDT by stanne
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To: BlackAdderess

“You may clap now!”

Jeb was such a tool!!!😂😂🤣🤣🤣


151 posted on 03/23/2023 6:05:41 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("A republic, if you can keep it" Benjamin Franklin.)
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To: kiryandil

Right.

We’ve had such a “Heads we win, tails you lose” approach to foreign policy before Trump that practically every region and country and the world is sick of us.

And we should never concede ICC jurisdiction.


152 posted on 03/23/2023 6:23:25 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: McGruff

He obviously doesn’t have the balls to stand by or to double down on his previously made statements. I hate men with no balls. They remind me of transgenders.


153 posted on 03/23/2023 7:31:21 AM PDT by Clarancebeaks
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To: Clarancebeaks

He obviously doesn’t have the balls to stand by or to double down on his previously made statements. I hate men with no balls. They remind me of transgenders.


DeSantis has taken on the homo lobby and defeated them as Florida governor. Meanwhile, Trump is throwing a “Log Cabin Republican” party at Mar-A-Lago. One of these things is not like the other.


154 posted on 03/23/2023 8:08:18 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: stanne

Press release from Linda Graham’s office, right?


155 posted on 03/23/2023 1:23:58 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Ghost of JM


156 posted on 03/23/2023 1:24:32 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: Rockingham

[Ron the Unready just found out that it is harder to actually start running for President than talk about it with your new best friend billionaire pals and their political consultants who desperately want someone, anyone, to get the nomination and beat Biden other than Donald Trump.]


What some think of as gaffes are basically trial balloons. Trump is a gaffe machine. If gaffes were disqualifying, Trump would be out of contention for more lifetimes than you can count. DeSantis floated it at an early stage, figured out it went over like a lead balloon, corrected himself before even announcing a candidacy. That’s how a slick operator does things - try things out before they really matter.


157 posted on 03/28/2023 12:01:01 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei
An essential skill for success in anything is a sense of strategy and timing, to be able to pick the right moment and say or do the right thing then, not too early and not too late. For the most part, Trump has that skill while DeSantis less so.

Last November, as talk of DeSantis running was beginning to circulate, I had several political conversations with an old friend who holds a sensitive, senior level appointment in Florida government. Basically, from different perspectives, both of us saw DeSantis as ambitious and unable to resist trying to get in the race, doing badly, and damaging himself. If we saw that, why couldn't DeSantis?

As for gaffes, Trump gets forgiven them by his supporters (which includes me) because many of Trump's supposed gaffes are a matter of being too truthful. More than that, Trump's supporters know the media is out of line in their attacks on him and that Trump is genuinely devoted to the country and fully capable of delivering.

In the odd alchemy of personality, background, and moment in history, a boisterous, egotistical billionaire developer from New York spent decades biding his time, waiting for his moment to run for President, winning a term but losing reelection. And in the dismal times of the Biden administration, Trump and not DeSantis is the country's best and truest hope for a conservative revival.

DeSantis is a good governor, but he is successful because of a large and potent conservative Republican political team that dominates Florida state politics. How would DeSantis do in the far tougher environment of Washington? Put to the test, I doubt that he would do as well as Trump did in his first term -- and perhaps far worse.

DeSantis might one day be a superb President. Yet to get such a chance, DeSantis would do best to serve out his time as governor and then aim at a major cabinet appointment in a second Trump administration. Two successful terms as Florida Governor, followed by two successful years as, say, Secretary of State for Trump would make DeSantis a leading candidate for President -- and a far more seasoned one than he is now.

158 posted on 03/28/2023 3:05:40 AM PDT by Rockingham
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