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Desperate Putin, 70, brings Soviet-era T-55 tanks as old as he is out of retirement to bolster his faltering war efforts – having already raided museums for T-62 models
Daily Mail ^ | 3/22/2023 | Will Stewart

Posted on 03/22/2023 2:26:17 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

Russia's president Vladimir Putin, 70, is taking tanks as old as he is out of storage in his desperate bid to crush Ukraine on the battlefield.

A video showing long obsolete Soviet-era T-54B and T-55A tanks - designed to be used in the armies of Soviet tyrant Josef Stalin - on a train carried across Russia, presumably destined for the frontlines of the war, has emerged.

It comes with Putin having already raided museums and storage depots for retired T-62 battle tanks, which halted production 12 years ago.

The geriatric T-54 was originally produced by Stalin after the Second World War in 1946, but Putin seems to be sending to war an updated version from the early 1950s - some 70 years old, the same age as the dictator.

Putin is fond of boasting of the prowess of his military capabilities. However, since his forces crossed the border into Ukraine over a year ago, his armies have been exposed as being outdated both tactically and in terms of equipment.

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To: MeganC
I had no idea Jan was a Zeeper.

Oh, no. Jan isn't a Zeeper. She can think.

... also appreciates the entertainment value of Zeepers!

41 posted on 03/22/2023 2:56:20 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Quit spamming the thread.


42 posted on 03/22/2023 2:56:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ganeemead

Exactly

December or thereabouts got postponed by the unusually short winter but the ground will dry out in another two months, tanks will roll,


43 posted on 03/22/2023 2:56:43 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ansel12
Quit spamming the thread.

you misspelled "sharing cutting edge memes that laugh at Zeepers."

Common mistake of Zeepers. No worries!

44 posted on 03/22/2023 2:57:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: MeganC

Wail until the New German Leopard Tanks come into action. Nothing can stop them. Like their grandfathers, the Tiger, these tanks are unstoppable. They will beat back the Russian advances and retake all the lost lands.


45 posted on 03/22/2023 2:58:19 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Kazan; delta7
Russian forces continue encircling the fortified cities of Bakhmut and now Avdeevka…blah, blah, blah

delta7 seems to think they are already encircled. So which is it? Seems like there is some confusion there on the Putlerist troll farm.

But I guess that’s what happens when your country is led by an internationally-wanted war criminal. Nobody appears to be in charge.
46 posted on 03/22/2023 2:58:32 PM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim IgnatowskD)
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To: ansel12

47 posted on 03/22/2023 2:58:42 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: ganeemead
Six weeks until Putin's May 9th "Victory Parade" in Red Square. LOL!


48 posted on 03/22/2023 2:59:17 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: KeyLargo

Why go against all the advanced countries of the world and your best and most important customers?


49 posted on 03/22/2023 2:59:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: marcusmaximus
We are not seeing WWII Eastern Front Kursk style Tank vs Tank in Ukraine.

The Russians and Ukrainians are both using American WWII tank doctrine where tanks are used to attack infantry, equipment, vehicles and fixed positions and to be used as mobile artillery.

Anti tank weapons and drones are the threat the tanks face most.

In this kind of war fighting, even the updated T-55 tanks are pretty darn effective. Especially since the tanks are being positioned as far back as from the front lines as possible. The Russians reputedly have huge ammo stock piles for them.

Weight of fire against largely static targets is what is driving the battlefield in Ukraine at the moment so the ability to lay a lot of munitions on target is the coin of the realm and the T-55 does this job very satisfactorily. .

Modern tanks have ammo inventories with much of the stockpiles of cannon rounds optimized for tank to tank duels so, while a high velocity sabot round may be the hot ticket pierce modern tank armor, it's not nearly as effective against infantry and buildings as old school HE and anti personnel ammo.

The old school T-55 has ammo stockpiles well suited to the conflict in Ukraine at the moments. Would not like to go up against an M1 or Leapord in a T-55, but a T-55 crew is no more vulnerable than the crew of a T-90 to a Javelin - if they take a hit, both are going to have a bad day. And they are expendable.

50 posted on 03/22/2023 3:00:55 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: AAABEST

“Russia has hardly used any Armor”

HA! So they just drove all those tanks into Ukraine last spring to abandon them as a charitable donation?

“the theater and circumstances don’t accomodate mechanized warfare...”

Well, sure, but Russia had to learn that the hard way though.


51 posted on 03/22/2023 3:01:16 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Chode

https://youtu.be/Xd5i6hzuLmU


52 posted on 03/22/2023 3:03:12 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: KeyLargo

“What’s to stop China from sending more tanks to Putin?”

China can’t send too many tanks to Russia. They might need them to run over their own citizens if democracy protests break out again.


53 posted on 03/22/2023 3:03:17 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: delta7

Congratulations to Putin then, because after

- several months of fighting
- tens of thousands of Russians dead,
- a massive chunk of talented, educated western Russian people getting as far away from Russia as possible
- mobilising the skilled workforces only to throw them into a meat grinder
- convincing hundreds of thousands of once pro-Russian Ukrainians that Russia is their enemy
- empowering two private armies (Kadyrov’s and Prighozin’s) to lord it over the Russian official armed forces
- pissing off the entire CSTO by robbing its talent to fuel the meat grinder
- bending over for a Xi cornholing this week, effectively pledging to be China’s gas station in return for... nothing much

He gets to claim victory over a small town after pulverising it to rubble for months.

Vladimir, you have won - tens of thousands of square miles of minefields, several thousand completely abandoned and razed villages and towns, a couple of cities also flattened into rubble, enough corpses to fill an olympic stadium, and a reconstruction bill so big that to do anything useful with the land you just “won”, Russia would be on the verge of bankruptcy.

Putin isn’t just mad, he’s utterly, utterly retarded.

As is anyone who thinks finally being able to control those two signs, after the stagggering cost Russia has incurred on kit, cadavers and international condemnation to win them, and thinks Russia “won” anything worth fighting for.


54 posted on 03/22/2023 3:06:10 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: Chode

“how’d you like to goto war in a Sherman???

upgraded of course...”

M51 Super Sherman


55 posted on 03/22/2023 3:06:29 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: AAABEST

Russia and Ukraine are on the steppe. That is tank country!


56 posted on 03/22/2023 3:06:49 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: ganeemead

Russia Racing Against Clock to Win Ukraine War Before May 9 ‘Victory Day’

4/21/22

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-may-vladimir-putin-victory-day-1699565


57 posted on 03/22/2023 3:07:23 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: TexasFreeper2009

mosin nagants will drop yer ass dead at 800 yds


58 posted on 03/22/2023 3:07:55 PM PDT by mylife (Big Donald J Trump socks psychology on the jaw...)
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To: marcusmaximus

Anyone who believes this article voted twice for Biden, this is total propaganda


59 posted on 03/22/2023 3:08:52 PM PDT by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence)
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To: ganeemead

Putin wants to win eastern Ukraine by Victory Day

April 04 2022

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/vladimir-putin-wants-success-eastern-ukraine-victory-day-moscow-russia-tcffl5fg7


60 posted on 03/22/2023 3:09:30 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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