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Ford is about to break out big EV losses for the first time
CNBC ^ | March 22, 2023 | by Michael Wayland

Posted on 03/22/2023 10:50:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

DETROIT – Ford Motor is about to tell investors what they’ve long wondered: How much is the transition to electric vehicles costing?

The automaker on Thursday plans to begin reporting its financial results by business unit, instead of by region, ushering in the new reporting structure with a “teach-in” for analysts and media.

Deutsche Bank analyst Emmanuel Rosner believes Ford could be incurring gross losses of about $9,000 per EV sold. The analyst expects Ford to reveal Thursday Model e operating losses of $6 billion for 2022. That’s after accounting for significant research and development investments — roughly 65% of the company’s total R&D — into the EV unit.

“The EV business could report much deeper losses than investors expect, which could make Ford’s target for 8% EV EBIT margin by 2026 particularly difficult to achieve,” Rosner said Monday in an investor note.

Aside from EV leader Tesla, no major automakers are expected to generate meaningful profits from electric vehicles for at least several years, as the industry works to increase EV output and manufacturing scale. That’s particularly true of EVs like Ford’s, as mass-market vehicles typically generate lower profits than luxury models.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; electricvehicles; ev; evs; ford; fordmotor; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hoax; newsforumabuse; notnews; socialism
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To: Fido969

Isn’t there someone working at Ford who saw this coming?

There probably WAS.


41 posted on 03/22/2023 11:20:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: butlerweave

Progressive fantasy dreams die hard.


42 posted on 03/22/2023 11:20:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Jim W N

They DO make a plug-in hybrid in several models. The smartest way to go “EV” there is.


43 posted on 03/22/2023 11:21:19 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: MDLION
The carmakers push EVs incessantly on TV

EV's driven by cool black people.

44 posted on 03/22/2023 11:21:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: PIF

Toyota is being forced to go electric-if it wants to sell in Europe.


46 posted on 03/22/2023 11:22:06 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: packagingguy

“Petrol”? Where are you from?


47 posted on 03/22/2023 11:22:44 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: hardspunned

“”Remember when these guy’s job number one was to built the best affordable GAS pickup truck in the world?””

In the not too distant future, there will be tens of thousands of F-150s that will keep running and running and running. Heck, eventually the F-150 could be like the ‘64, ‘65 Mustang. What a car!


48 posted on 03/22/2023 11:22:48 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Jeff Chandler

U sound like you like this.


50 posted on 03/22/2023 11:23:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

EV battery costs could spike 22% by 2026 as raw material shortages drag on

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/05/18/ev-battery-costs-set-to-spike-as-raw-material-shortages-drags-on.html


51 posted on 03/22/2023 11:25:35 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: central_va

There was a point 50 years ago when it appeared that a lack of oil might eventually make the ICE obsolete. That was one reason. Of course, that notion has been blown to hell. I’m going take a guess and say the main reason is the fact that generations of green cronies have been getting filthy rich promoting the battle.


52 posted on 03/22/2023 11:27:52 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: central_va

Nah, just observing the world around me.


53 posted on 03/22/2023 11:28:14 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ford can not continue like this. And no, we will NOT bail them out. We ALL are going to have to draw a line somewhere, or the government will take everything we own and give it to people who make bad decisions.


54 posted on 03/22/2023 11:41:36 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“Excuse me, General, sir, but may I point out that several U.S. States and most of the European Union decided to adopt targets dates (most frequently 2035) to phase out ICE vehicles first, then every manufacturer decided to go electric.”

Germany had phased out its coal power plants and nuclear reactors. That was never going to work either as they’d become dependent on coal power produced in other countries. Periodically, governments do stupid things. Germany has brought their coal plants back online and are extending the nuclear plants. Fortunately, the market corrects governments. By 2035 I expect fewer electric vehicles, not more. They simply are not practical.


55 posted on 03/22/2023 11:43:03 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Jeff Chandler

I said petrol to cover gas and diesel. A lot of Ford trucks are diesel.


56 posted on 03/22/2023 11:43:03 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: dfwgator

I’m tired of paying for other people’s graft, corruption and general dumbassery. . . .


57 posted on 03/22/2023 11:43:26 AM PDT by RatRipper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If they’re losing nine grand on each sale, I’ll be happy to save them $4,000 if they’ll pay me $5,000 not to buy one.


58 posted on 03/22/2023 11:48:38 AM PDT by Stosh
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59 posted on 03/22/2023 11:49:37 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
That may be so, but that does not stop current assholes from spreading marxist ideology because it sounds so good to lazy people who want it all without having to do anything to get it.
60 posted on 03/22/2023 11:52:59 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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