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Siberia is up for grabs as Putin becomes China's vassal
msn.com ^ | 18 March 2023 | Matthew Henderson

Posted on 03/18/2023 10:43:32 PM PDT by anthropocene_x

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1 posted on 03/18/2023 10:43:32 PM PDT by anthropocene_x
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To: anthropocene_x

Not true. Russia will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons to protect their territory.


2 posted on 03/18/2023 10:48:03 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: anthropocene_x

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3 posted on 03/18/2023 10:55:46 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy thmkeorist stuff, there.”)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That doesn’t make it untrue.

Russia wouldn’t start nuking the Chinese army unless they were attacking, which means a war is engaged, and not one that would necessarily stop just because Russia used some nukes.


4 posted on 03/18/2023 11:01:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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China extracts (a better word than produces) about 4.7 million barrels per day from domestic oil fields. Theirs have been pumping for going on 80 years. Terminal decline.

So domestic production 4.7 mbps. Domestic consumption 15ish mbps. Russia pumps 11 mbps and consumes only 3 mbpd.

I can assure you, since oil is everything, China will remain the junior, not senior, partner.


5 posted on 03/18/2023 11:02:25 PM PDT by Owen
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To: MinorityRepublican

That is, if they have even maintained their nuclear weapons. Looking at Russian maintenance of other weaponry, this is in doubt.

Russia doesn’t have a succession plan in place post Putin. Unlike the Chinese. So it may implode into warring parts.

Finally China may be content to just be de facto ruler rather than de jure


6 posted on 03/18/2023 11:10:20 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Owen

Oil is not everything. Otherwise Venezuela and Saudi Arabia would be world leaders.

Russia is purely an extraction state


7 posted on 03/18/2023 11:11:42 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: anthropocene_x
Welcome to the vassal club.

Siberia is up for grabs as Putin becomes China's vassal

The U.S. is up for grabs as Biden becomes China's vassal.

8 posted on 03/18/2023 11:26:32 PM PDT by Ymani Cricket (."Fear kills more people than death" ~General George C. Patton)
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To: Cronos
Russia doesn’t have a succession plan in place post Putin.

They absolutely do.
Lies, lies, and more lies from you.

9 posted on 03/18/2023 11:26:40 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: anthropocene_x

The MSM and Deep State in DC are the biggest enablers of the Russian-Chinese alliance ever and they now cry wolf.
There was no even significant trade between Russia and China 10 years ago.

Regarding vassalage, do you see anything Russia is doing on Chinese bidding?

If China only wants raw materials from Russia, why shouldn’t Russia grant it?

What the West wants from Russia?


10 posted on 03/18/2023 11:34:43 PM PDT by NorseViking
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They absolutely do.

Who will replace Putin? The answer is. No one in knows. If Putin named a successor, his rule would be threatened by his successor. So why would he name one in the first place?

It's kind of like the Roman Empire. You had powerful men assassinating the Emperor because they wanted to seize power in Rome.

11 posted on 03/18/2023 11:36:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Cronos
Russia is purely an extraction state

And right now, China has them "over a barrel", litterally. Assuming the buyer is the "junior partner" is a fundamental misunderstanding of capitalism.

12 posted on 03/18/2023 11:39:42 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: anthropocene_x

The most likely outcome is...

So the author is speculating. The Internet seems to be full of pundits predicting the future.


13 posted on 03/18/2023 11:47:00 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: anthropocene_x

If we cut off Chinese commerce, I suspect that will throw a monkey wrench in to Xi’s plans. Isolate China like we do North Korea, let’s see how long Xi lasts.


14 posted on 03/18/2023 11:51:35 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Sanders, Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Stand Aside and Retire.)
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Come to the consumer store near you and find a thing that is not Chinese.
If your policy is implemented, the US is going to be in a stone age in two years, and China is going to have a governor in DC.


15 posted on 03/18/2023 11:56:06 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: Cronos

Venezuela doesn’t produce. Yet. PetroChina and Rosneft are incrementally addressing that.

KSA has 40 million people and only 60% are citizens. They ship in Bangladeshis and Pakistanis to work the oil fields and provide the native population with lives of leisure. They extract 11 million bpd and consume . . . an amazing amount for just 40 million. They are on the verge of surpassing Japan.

And since oil is everything, there’s not much doubt they have lives of considerably more luxury than Japan with 3-4X the population.

Best, always, to measure wealth in joules. Not dollars. Dollars are created from thin air by central banks. Joules are created by God.


16 posted on 03/19/2023 12:04:07 AM PDT by Owen
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To: ETCM

There is no capitalism. Capitalism is defined by creating money from thin air by central banks.

Oil is joules, created by God.

Measure wealth only in joules. Everything else is merely the imagination of counterparties.


17 posted on 03/19/2023 12:06:58 AM PDT by Owen
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To: anthropocene_x

Siberia! What a perfect place to send all leftists and rinos!


18 posted on 03/19/2023 12:40:43 AM PDT by Boomer (The biden regime / identity politics is a clear and present threat to this constitutional republic.)
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To: Cronos

“That is, if they have even maintained their nuclear weapons. Looking at Russian maintenance of other weaponry, this is in doubt.”

You are correct. I doubt russia’s nukes are operational.

putin is a bluffer, he thinks bravado is manly

China wants Siberia. They have about 1.5 billion citizens

pooty poot is in way over his head


19 posted on 03/19/2023 12:51:10 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: anthropocene_x

China takes Siberia back in 20 years


20 posted on 03/19/2023 1:55:00 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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