Posted on 03/17/2023 5:53:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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March is often a green-filled month, as St. Patrick's Day traditions abound while Ireland's national festival is celebrated around the world. One longstanding ceremony is the dyeing of the Chicago River, when artificial coloring is used to turn the water an emerald green during the week leading up to St. Patrick's Day.
The event is a cultural milestone in the city of Chicago, with thousands lining the river every year to catch a glimpse of the green hues in action. Chicago's Irish heritage often looms large during the holiday, with Block Club Chicago reporting that an estimated 75,000 people attended the city's annual St. Patrick's Day Parade in 2023 — the largest gathering outside of Dublin.
However, the practice of dyeing the river, which began in 1962, has not been without controversy. While the city has consistently maintained that the dye is completely safe for the environment, some activists are not so sure. Groups have also been speaking out about the potential message that dyeing the river could be sending about the river's ecosystem.
DYEING THE RIVER GREEN IS ECOLOGICALLY IRRESPONSIBLE
While Chicago has asserted that the dye being used is safe, some feel that there are other concerns that may arise from turning the river green. "Dyeing the river perpetuates the notion that it can be treated any way anyone wants, rather than protected as a valuable natural resource," Margaret Frisbie, head of advocacy group Friends of the Chicago River, tells EuroNews. Frisbie adds that, in the age of continuing environmental pollution, "our land and waterways need protection and our traditions need to evolve to reflect that."
Frisbie also tells NPR that, while officials say the dye is safe, the Illinois EPA "has never required a [pollutant discharge] permit so there is no way to know what the dye is or whether it is harmless." Isaac Green agrees that questions remain, and writes for Niche Canada that "even if the dye itself isn't ecologically harmful, the process of dying the river can sustain harmful ecological ideas." Green adds that dyeing the river is akin to treating it as a sewer, and writes that the practice "can be interpreted as a surreptitious disenfranchisement of the river."
THE DYE THAT IS USED IS COMPLETELY SAFE The Illinois EPA has been cautiously quiet about the dye used in the river, while also maintaining that it is totally safe. "The dye used is a food grade dye also used in medicine, as the colorant for antifreeze and as a tracer dye. Illinois EPA found that at the concentration used in the Chicago River, it is completely non-toxic," the agency said in a statement, per Niche Canada.
Most environmental groups themselves don't challenge the validity of the dye's safety itself, Megan Crepeau writes for the Chicago Tribune, though she adds that you shouldn't "even bother asking what the dye is made of." Josh Mogerman, a spokesman for the National Resources Defense Council, told the Tribune that the river "is a waterway that has all sorts of really big issues that we focus on a lot more than vegetable dye going in on one day."
Umbra Fisk writes for environmental magazine Grist that the dyes used "are typically veggie-based, carry no real eco-toxicity concerns, are considered safe for aquatic critters, and are certified for use in drinking water by the National Sanitation Foundation." Fisk adds that when it comes to safety issues, "I'd say a Shamrock Shake poses more health and environmental dangers than the annual dyein' of the green."
CHICAGO'S RIVER DYEING IS SIMPLY NOT NECESSARY
An editor's letter to the Chicago Sun-Times argues that "we should not be dyeing rivers, whether we have the ability to do it or not." The letter adds, "Chicago loves Lake Michigan. It would never be contemplated to dye the lakefront." Why, then, it asks, does the city take this type of action with the river?
"St. Patrick's Day can be celebrated without humiliating the river and freaking out the wildlife!" the letter adds. The writer of the letter, Willie Levinson, tells CBS News that the dyeing was "like parading the Chicago River out in a dress."
Levinson feels that there are other ways to honor St. Patrick's Day, and calls the dyeing of the river "lazy."
DYEING THE RIVER IS PART OF A CHICAGO TRADITION
Many people appreciate the American traditions associated with St. Patrick's Day — including those in Ireland. Jennifer O'Connell writes for The Irish Times that even though some of it may be considered cultural appropriation, "We love it. Please appropriate away. Keep printing those Make St. Patty's Day Great Again T-shirts and eating your corned beef." O'Connell adds that Americans should participate in the holiday because "it's more than a tradition. It's your patriotic duty."
"Once I went to college in Chicago, a city that dyes its river green for the holiday, it became an event," Katrina Diaz writes for Time, adding that the Irish "could care less about the superficial aspects of celebrating their holiday." For them, she writes, "it's about 'the craic' — coming together to celebrate their families, their friendships and their cultural heritage," which the dyeing of the Chicago River helps to do.
The Peahens are cackling again..
Next you going to tell me stop drinking and stop fighting.
If you want to celebrate like a true Irishman, bind yourself to the name eternal, to the God who is true and living, to God who is Triune, three in one and one in three.
If you want to celebrate Irish heritage, make upon yourself the sign of the cross in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and remember that you have been baptized, made in Christ a child of the Heavenly Father.
If you want to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day, do so in the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Christ, and think that he has saved us from the darkness and savagery of the pagans.
If you wish to celebrate like a true Irishmen, look at the glory of nature, its hills and valleys, its trees and rocks, and see them as the creation of God, who also formed you from the dust of that earth, breathing into you his life giving breath, and then, by the preaching of the gospel, freed you from slavery to those elementary principles that once held the heathen.
If you want to celebrate like a true Irishman, be glad for evangelists who came also to your land, and then give to your own children a home in the house of your fathers in Christ, including St. Patrick.
And then, by all means, raise a pint of Guinness with friends, dig into some corned beef and cabbage, or whatever seems best to accompany such gratitude and joy.
~ Peter J. Scaer
the process of dying the river can sustain harmful ecological ideas.”
See, the problem isn’t the dye its those harmful ideas.
Can’t have those out there where anyone could come across them.
I really don’t care much about St. Patrick’s Day since any Irish dna in me is very doubtful. But shove the ecological talk where the sun doesn’t shine.
Green Water is generally not a Good Thing.
Isn’t the population of Ireland less than the population of ChIraq?
For the full version see the prayer “St Patrick’s Breastplate”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3866754/posts
They’re not upset over the water or hypothetical environmental damage.
They’re upset that whitey still gets to celebrate their heritage.
They should dye it blue the rest of the year
I was in Ireland on St. Patrick’s day back in the 80’s and there, it’s a religious holiday. I remember the mother of the family I was staying with asking me about going to church and all I had that was clean was sweatpants. She said the Lord doesn’t care what you’re wearing. I went to church in sweatpants.
Also, eating things like corned beef and cabbage and shepherd’s pie is bad for you. /sarc
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields
and until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of His hand,
and may the Chicago River run bright green.
Are there any Irish left in Chicago?
Thank you for that post referral. Most edifying.
Maybe they should dye gunshot victims green all weekend instead…
LOL. Oh man.
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