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The Parliamentary Motive Behind the J6 Fedsurrection
the conservative treehouse ^ | 03/12/23 | Sundance

Posted on 03/14/2023 7:34:39 AM PDT by eyeamok

Those congressional floor challenges, known and anticipated well in advance of the morning of January 6, 2021, would have formed a legal and constitutional basis for ‘standing’ in judicial challenges that would have eventually reached the Supreme Court. The certification during “emergency session” eliminated the problem for Washington DC.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


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I read this over the weekend and found it to be pretty interesting, especially since it appears highly plausible and real. We are being led by CRIMINALS who in my opinion have committed TREASON against the American People, Sedition at the very least. Read it all and read carefully
1 posted on 03/14/2023 7:34:39 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: eyeamok
This would require far more intelligence and coordination than there is evidence of in Congress.

It's far more likely it was done to discredit Trump, arrest a bunch of his supporters and set the stage for a possible indictment of the soon to be former President. I don't think they actually planned an interruption given the panic among our distinguished lawmakers upon hearing hoi polloi had broken in.

2 posted on 03/14/2023 7:39:04 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: eyeamok
I've heard Ted Cruz say a couple of times on his podcast that he had already struck a deal with some Democrats to stop the counting of the Electoral votes until a Select committee could be appointed to investigate the election fraud allegations, in the same way as was done in 1876.

That agreement was destroyed by the insurrection and interruption of the electoral vote counting.

The "insurrection" prevented an actual congressional investigation into 202 vote fraud.

There's your motive for recruiting Ray Epps and other undercover agents to whip up the crowd to invade the Capitol.

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sen-cruz-we-have-an-obligation-to-the-constitution-to-ensure-that-this-election-was-lawful

3 posted on 03/14/2023 7:40:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

So, do you mean you suspect that they knew Cruz had such an agreement so they planned this to circumvent it?

Boy would that be a nice thing to prove.

Treason is a capital offense.


4 posted on 03/14/2023 7:44:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: pierrem15

Don’t confuse stupid with EVIL. I don’t believe any of these assholes in the leadership are stupid or dumb, however I am thoroughly convinced they are EVIL and should be eradicated from society, or exiled to Afghanistan


5 posted on 03/14/2023 7:45:21 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: eyeamok

Many saw this for what it was as it happened.

The fences and troops around the capitol weren’t there to stop the “insurrection”, they were there to stop an actual armed insurrection should enough people understand recognize the coup for what it was.

The J6 committee’s job was to seal the envelope. And they would have if not for the miraculous shift of power in congress.


6 posted on 03/14/2023 7:47:43 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down seven times, stand up eight. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Mr. K
So, do you mean you suspect that they knew Cruz had such an agreement so they planned this to circumvent it?

Yes, look at the link I provided at the bottom of my post. That was a Cruz press release from January THIRD.

7 posted on 03/14/2023 7:48:44 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: eyeamok
CTH is out to lunch on this. There’s far too much attention being paid to the January 6th proceedings in Congress. By the time we got to January 6th, the certification of the 2020 presidential election was a mere formality.

The most critical date in the election process wasn’t January 6th, but December 14th of 2020. That was the date established for the formal convening of the presidential electors in their respective states. Once that date passed without any action taken by state legislatures to certify competing slates of electors in the states where voting irregularities were rampant, the opportunity to contest the results later pretty much disappeared.

Articles like this also completely misrepresent the role of the U.S. Supreme Court in a presidential election. A presidential election is one of the only areas of the U.S. Constitution where state laws supersede acts of Congress and the authority of federal courts. So once the calendar turned from 2020 to 2021, the Supreme Court was going to reject any legal challenges to the 2020 election results no matter what Nancy Pelosi decided to do on January 6th.

8 posted on 03/14/2023 7:51:58 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: eyeamok

More embarrassing nonsense from “conservative” treehouse and Sundance. Supreme Court has zero authority over how Congress certifies Electors “fedsurrection” or not. All of those motions could have been made once the House / Senate resumed. Proceedings being suspended had zero bearing on that. When proceeding resumed, challenges were indeed still filed and those procedures went through as normal.

The way this article paints the situation is a complete fiction. Utter and complete garbage to spread nonsense on the Right. Just make it up - becoming more and more like the Left every day - coming up with your ‘own truth’ rather than worrying about the actual truth.


9 posted on 03/14/2023 7:54:56 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Yo-Yo
Sorry, but I think Ted Cruz is full of crap on that one.

Under the U.S. Constitution, Presidential terms must begin on January 20th or the first day after that (if the 20th falls on a Sunday). Anyone who thinks Congress could have seated and authorized a “select committee” in two weeks — let alone completed even a minimal, half-assed “investigation” in that time — is delusional.

10 posted on 03/14/2023 7:58:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: ConservativeWarrior
The newest edition of "The Devin Nunes Podcast" is titled "250. Tucker Carlson’s Jan. 6 Tapes." In it, Nunes interviews Julie Kelly who has bee studying and analyzing January 6 for two years. She is an excellent investigative reporter.'

Nunes spent 20 years in Congress and watched the security procedures for many major government events in D.C. including Presidential inaugurations, Supreme Court justices sworn in, and many big happenings in Congress. He outlines all the security procedures he saw during those 20 years and is amazed at how lax (actually, nearly non-existent) security was on January 6.

It is worth listening to at 250. Tucker Carlson’s Jan. 6 Tapes.

11 posted on 03/14/2023 8:00:29 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The government's lying liars love to lie)
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To: Alberta's Child
CTH is out to lunch on this. There’s far too much attention being paid to the January 6th proceedings in Congress. By the time we got to January 6th, the certification of the 2020 presidential election was a mere formality. The most critical date in the election process wasn’t January 6th, but December 14th of 2020. That was the date established for the formal convening of the presidential electors in their respective states. Once that date passed without any action taken by state legislatures to certify competing slates of electors in the states where voting irregularities were rampant, the opportunity to contest the results later pretty much disappeared. Articles like this also completely misrepresent the role of the U.S. Supreme Court in a presidential election. A presidential election is one of the only areas of the U.S. Constitution where state laws supersede acts of Congress and the authority of federal courts. So once the calendar turned from 2020 to 2021, the Supreme Court was going to reject any legal challenges to the 2020 election results no matter what Nancy Pelosi decided to do on January 6th.

Exactly. CTH / Sundance is "out to lunch" on virtually everything. This is just the latest of evidence that the "values" of the Left are increasingly becoming commonplace on the right as well - just make up your "own truth" without regard to reality. Regardless of those events that does not create or negate any authority the Courts may have. The Supreme Court has zero authority over how Congress certifies Electors “fedsurrection” or no "fedsurrection." Proceedings were suspended temporarily - they were not ended. And how the procedure went through did not change at all. All of those motions could have been made once the House / Senate resumed. Proceedings being suspended had zero bearing on that. When proceedings did resume, challenges were indeed still filed and those procedures went through as normal. There was absolutely nothing changed in how the process took place, no "emergency" powers used to prevent motions, etc. This story is complete fiction from start to finish.

To borrow from another poster:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4133096/posts#3

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This “case” (which is actually not one) is Constitutional science fiction.

The “election” alleged to be fraudulent has no Constitutional existence. The 50 State Legislatures which appoint 535 Electors (and Congress, which appoints 3) have all adopted the custom of having people voting as the means by which the appointments are normally made, but this creates 51 elections, not one.

Those 51 elections occur at the direction of, and are subservient to, 50 legislatures and Congress. The States unwisely granted Congress 3 Electors by ratifying the XXIII Amendment in 1960, so Congress does have supervisory power OVER THOSE THREE, but not otherwise.

There is only one Presidential election in the Constitution, it takes place in December, there are 538 voters, and in December 2020 Biden got 306 of them and was elected President.

No State Legislature objected that its Electors were not the ones they had appointed. No State Legislature even convened to consider the matter. In the case of Pennsylvania, the Legislature fled to avoid considering the matter.

It has never been alleged that a single one of the 306 votes for Biden/Harris was a forgery, that the Electors who casted them were impersonating someone else, or that the Legislatures had secretly appointed other Electors.

There is zero space for an allegation of fraud in the Constitutional Presidential election of December 14, 2020.

As far as the 51 elections which occurred on November 3, 2020, they may very well have been rife with fraud, but since the appointment power of the 50 State Legislatures (535) and Congress (3) is plenary, that’s a problem for those legislatures to deal with should they choose to do so.

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12 posted on 03/14/2023 8:03:34 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Pure fantasy! Sundance is spot on in his article.


13 posted on 03/14/2023 8:16:49 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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To: pierrem15
This would require far more intelligence and coordination than there is evidence of in Congress.

As if the congressional leadership is the thinking and planning center of their global world order?

14 posted on 03/14/2023 8:19:51 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
the thinking and planning center of their global world order?

That's not how it works. It's more insidious than that. It isn't coordinated: it's what happens when you have a homogenized ruling elite. They all go to the same schools, have the same friends, hold the same opinions, etc. They're like lemmings. You could replace most of the individuals with other individuals from the same class and get almost exactly the same opinions, policies and actions.

It's class warfare, and we can't get rid of it without destroying the class, or at least removing its hands from the levers of political and economic power, which is why it's so difficult to get rid of.

That's also one reason why they went after Trump with such fury: he's a class traitor. And if he succeeded in pulling a plurality of the elite away with him, then the lockstep destruction of the country for their benefit would end.

15 posted on 03/14/2023 8:30:57 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks for the tip!


16 posted on 03/14/2023 8:32:07 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down seven times, stand up eight. - Japanese proverb)
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To: ConservativeWarrior
Sure. I know you will like it. I listened to it while on a long hike yesterday. She is becoming a #1 investigative reporter.

There was an outstanding article that used a lot of her reporting posted on FR four days ago which is worth reading. The horrific corruption and illegal moves at the FBI will absolutely make your blood boil.

Original source at ConservativeHQ:
Julie Kelly J6 Bombshell: FBI Caught Lying, Destroying Evidence and Spying In Proud Boys Trial by George Rasley, CHQ Editor, March 10, 2023

FreeRepublic Commentary:
Julie Kelly J6 Bombshell: FBI Caught Lying, Destroying Evidence and Spying In Proud Boys Trial.

17 posted on 03/14/2023 8:42:48 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The government's lying liars love to lie)
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To: eyeamok

bkmk


18 posted on 03/14/2023 8:55:48 AM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: pierrem15
As if the congressional leadership is the thinking and planning center of their global world order?

It isn't coordinated: it's what happens when you have a homogenized ruling elite.

How would you know that?

It seems more likely that it would be both homogenized interests and coordination.

Why wouldn't homogenized interests coordinate. Seems counterintuitive but politically correct to say that similar interests don't coordinate. Seems like human nature to think that they would.

19 posted on 03/14/2023 9:07:40 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Republican Wildcat

“This is just the latest of evidence that the “values” of the Left are increasingly becoming commonplace on the right as well - just make up your “own truth” without regard to reality.”

It’s supply and demand. Lots of people on the right nowadays demand that people just tell them what they want to hear, regardless of the truth of the matter. And unscrupulous people are willing to supply that.


20 posted on 03/14/2023 9:16:06 AM PDT by Boogieman
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