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We can safely say the only country outside suspicion is Russia.

The prime suspects being Poland, Ukraine and the USA.

It was a major Act of War against Germany and Russia. Either would be justified in punishing strikes against the culprit.

1 posted on 03/11/2023 6:49:24 PM PST by Mariner
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There is no way to know yet who did it.

But the top suspect has to be Russia.

Russia has been using oil and gas to try to pry Germany away from the alliance with the US, Britain, France and the rest of Western Europe and into a new Molotov-Ribbentrop arrangement whereby Russia would have a free hand to conquer Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltics and intimidate Poland, and Germany would undermine these countries on Russia’s behalf in exchange for cheap gas.

Putin almost had the Germans on board, but it turned out too much for them to swallow, except for part of the SPD and AFD.

Germany survived the winter and made other arrangements for energy. Schroeder and Merkel are increasingly viewed in disrespect in Germany for their selling out Ukraine for cheap gas.

President Trump was proven right again for the umpteenth time for telling the Germans to their faces that they were fools for selling out to Putin for cheap gas.

And so it appears likely that Putin and the FSB/SVR tried one of their false flag attacks to destroy the pipeline and blame the Americans, as a last ditch effort to try to separate Germany from the US and Europe and thereby ending the consensus on supplying Ukraine with the weapons and support they need to resist the Russian invasion force.

As for Seymour Hersh’s tale, who knows what murky domestic or foreign intel faction is using him for this narrative. He was last seen furiously back-pedaling after being caught on a leaked audio recording saying it was Seth Rich that leaked Democrat Party emails to Wikileaks (and not Russian hackers.)

Or maybe it was Ukrainians on a three-hour cruise.


54 posted on 03/11/2023 9:25:59 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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Either would be justified in punishing strikes against the culprit.

Go ahead- launch them, see how fast Kaliningrad becomes Polish territory, the Black Sea fleet joins the Moskva on the bottom and Russia gets its butt thrown out of Ukraine.

The Russian armed forces can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag and they can't use nukes or they'll get nuked in return. So just have a nice cup of STFU.

58 posted on 03/11/2023 10:43:33 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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The Minerva Julie stayed there, alternately idling and
crossing a roughly 200-square-nautical-mile area above the
two natural-gas pipelines, for seven days, from September 6
until September 12. From there, the Julie traveled on to
Tallinn, Estonia before anchoring at Saint Petersburg, Russia
on September 18. Then, on September 26, the two pipelines
burst.

I still don't rule anything out. Biden may have ordered
it done. I would hope not, but with his strategic advisors
(loosely termed), I wouldn't rule that out.

I think Russia had planned to refuse to sell oil to
European nations, so I'm not totally sure it couldn't
have seen this as a propaganda plus, claiming the West
did it.

I believe a lot of folks have taken for granted the US
did it, so if that is proven, I'm not sure exactly what
difference it would make at this point. Russia could
demand the US pick up the tab for repairs. It could
retaliate with a higher level of justification.

If this ship did have a part in the operation to take out
the oil lines, it's rather interesting that it then
traveled to Estonia and St. Petersberg. It seems as
if that wouldn't be a very sound thing to do, if it was
involved and Russia wasn't involved as well.

Still watching this play out.

59 posted on 03/11/2023 11:14:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for? which it stands.)
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BIDEN: "If Russia invades Ukraine there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring end to it"

How America [Joe Biden] Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

60 posted on 03/11/2023 11:28:30 PM PST by henbane ( )
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To quote a douchebag…. “At this point, what difference does it make?” /s


65 posted on 03/12/2023 4:33:32 AM PDT by USAF1985 (Joe McCarthy is a hero...he was absolutely, 100% correct! (Let’s go Brandon!))
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66 posted on 03/12/2023 5:28:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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“It was a major Act of War against Germany and Russia.”

Mein Gott ! A major one !


68 posted on 03/12/2023 6:10:26 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Russia School of Agitprop paid some of its Earth First panic attackers.

Russia did it to smear Poland.

Russia did it to remove a bargaining chip from peace talk consideration.

George Soros did it to cause unrest.

Iran did it to prove to Moscow, that Iran is determined to “help” the Axis of Terrorism.

A bunch of gun owners did it, when the lost their assault rifles and ammo cans overboard during a Baltic Sea fishing marathon.

Hillary Clinton did it, because nobody will believe that she actually did it.

Joe Biden did it, but said, “I only said ‘Do it!’ in jest, while off-camera!”

Viking re-enactors did it.

Chinese balloon payloads.

Some old WW-II undersea mines will inevitably react.


76 posted on 03/12/2023 12:30:51 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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