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The US’s March of Folly in Ukraine
American Thinker ^ | March 10, 2023 | Jared Peterson

Posted on 03/10/2023 9:57:45 AM PST by Kazan

This war need never have happened if Kissinger’s, and many others’, proposal for a neutral, non-NATO Ukraine had been accepted by the US in 2021, as Russia reasonably requested, and if Ukraine, at America’s direction, had ceased its eight year, US-sponsored war on the Donbas Russian speakers and Russian ethnics, and had enforced the Minsk II accords.

But the US Military Industrial Complex wanted a war and got one. The object: To bleed and weaken Russia with a Vietnam-like quagmire.

Russia appears to be surviving US sanctions quite comfortably, as new customers pop up in Asia for its natural gas and other vital resources, its ruble remains strong, 80% of its people apparently support their government, Europe’s, particularly Germany’s, economies are in free fall as the cost of US liquified natural gas exceeds the cost of demonized Russian pipeline gas by huge multiples, and as the BRICs develop new trade routes and payment methods in Asia and across the global south, threatening the dollar as the world’s reserve currency.

All of this, and the risk of nuclear war with a Russia that does in fact feel threatened by the US Military Industrial Complex’s thirty year pattern of gratuitously aggressive behavior:

*NATO’s relentless eastward expansion, in the teeth of explicit promises by every 1990 Western leader that such expansion would never occur if Russia accepted German reunification, withdrew its troops from Eastern Europe, and dissolved the Warsaw Pact;

*Invitations in 2008 to Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO, well known at the time to be as totally unacceptable to Russia as the Soviet Union’s attempted similar conversion of Cuba in 1962 was to the United States;

*US deep involvement in the 2014 coup that deposed Ukraine’s democratically elected, pro Russian president; US installation of sophisticated weapons systems in the new NATO countries

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1 posted on 03/10/2023 9:57:45 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

the usual Russian lies


2 posted on 03/10/2023 10:01:22 AM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: Kazan

The citizens of The United States did not blow up the Nordstream pipeline.

The Democrats blew up the Nordstream pipeline.


3 posted on 03/10/2023 10:09:11 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: canuck_conservative

Truth hurts cuck Canuck. You should volunteer because the Ukrainians need someone vicious and strong who says “sorry” after every shot fired.


4 posted on 03/10/2023 10:09:30 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: canuck_conservative

You don’t belong here.


5 posted on 03/10/2023 10:14:22 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: canuck_conservative

I’m glad you’re so quick to get the official Biden reaction to this out. You’ve been trafficking in the government/media conglomerate disinfo long enough you can probably freelance your BS without getting the latest FBI talking points. You need a badge, junior G-man, BS second class. Keep up the vigilance.


6 posted on 03/10/2023 10:17:06 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Kazan

Garbage article full of lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations.


7 posted on 03/10/2023 10:18:30 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Kazan

NATO should have went the way of the Warsaw Pact. One without the other is in an imbalance.


8 posted on 03/10/2023 10:24:41 AM PST by CodeJockey ("The duty of a true Patriot is to protect his country from its government.” –Thomas Paine)
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To: Kazan

not one criticism of Putin

Putin illegally invades a sovereign country - violating the 1994 Budapest Agreement, which the author again makes no mention of - and yet he gets zero criticism

this author is not objective, he’s obviously a paid Russian propagandist repeating all the bogus Kremlin talking points


9 posted on 03/10/2023 10:25:45 AM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: CodeJockey
No, because Russia is still dangerous. The other countries knew that which is why they left the the Warsaw block and by now are joining Nato (to preserve and protect themselves).
10 posted on 03/10/2023 10:27:40 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: Timber Rattler

“..Garbage article full of lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations.””

such as?


11 posted on 03/10/2023 10:27:51 AM PST by elpadre (nd )
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To: canuck_conservative

“… this author is not objective, he’s obviously a paid Russian propagandist repeating all the bogus Kremlin talking points”
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Oh, you sound so very, very French.


12 posted on 03/10/2023 10:27:55 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: House Atreides

Submissively surrendering to Russian nuclear blackmail seems very French.


13 posted on 03/10/2023 10:30:03 AM PST by lodi90
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To: elpadre

“Such as”: *NATO’s relentless eastward expansion, in the teeth of explicit promises by every 1990 Western leader that such expansion would never occur if Russia accepted German reunification, withdrew its troops from Eastern Europe, and dissolved the Warsaw Pact;

The whole article is recycled manure.


14 posted on 03/10/2023 10:31:16 AM PST by lodi90
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To: CodeJockey
NATO should have went the way of the Warsaw Pact

wrong - Russia never stopped pointing those nuclear-armed missiles at us

that shows it always had malicious intent

friendly countries don't aim nuclear missiles at us ... Britain and France don't, which is why we consider them friendly

Russia, China, and North Korea do - which is why we consider them as hostile menaces


15 posted on 03/10/2023 10:31:47 AM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: canuck_conservative
Name one thing the author was wrong about.

All you and your ilk have are lies, coming straight from Deep State and the Biden regime.

16 posted on 03/10/2023 10:32:52 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

everything


17 posted on 03/10/2023 10:34:58 AM PST by canuck_conservative (if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors, we wouldn't need NATO anymore)
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To: Kazan

Frankly, it’s pretty much past the time when there’s not much left of Eastern Ukraine to save. It’s turning into a graveyard.


18 posted on 03/10/2023 10:45:23 AM PST by budj
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To: canuck_conservative

This source is not Russian, goober.


19 posted on 03/10/2023 10:47:58 AM PST by dforest (All of America has derailed.)
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To: Kazan

“NATO’s relentless eastward expansion”

Russian barbarians hate it when the nations they used to dominate and enslave take steps to secure themselves against future domination and enslavement by Russia.

NATO has not ‘relentlessly expanded’ but instead plenty of countries have freely joined it and that list will soon enough include Finland and Sweden. Maybe even Switzerland and Austria who are both now integrating their militaries with NATO.

Also, Russia does not get to veto who can and can’t apply to join NATO.

That’s just the same as criminals getting a say on who can and cannot have a burglar alarm.


20 posted on 03/10/2023 10:48:36 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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