Posted on 03/08/2023 8:23:07 PM PST by Kazan
A resolution sponsored by Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) to withdraw American troops from Syria failed on Wednesday, although it did garner significant Republican and Democrat support.
The House voted on H.Con. Res. 21, which, if passed, would direct President Joe Biden to remove American armed forces from Syria within 180 days of the bill’s enactment.
Since the bill was a War Powers Act resolution, the House had to vote on the bill. The bill, however, failed on Wednesday night, with 103 lawmakers in favor and 321 lawmakers against. Forty-seven Republicans and 56 Democrats voted in favor of the bill.
Gaetz said in a written statement after the vote that he will only continue to reduce America’s foreign entanglements. He said:
"There is no role for the United States of America in Syria. We are not a Middle Eastern power. We have tried to build a democracy out of sand, blood, and Arab militias. Time and again, the work we do does not reduce chaos. Oftentimes, it causes chaos – the very chaos that then subsequently leads to terrorism. While today’s vote may have failed, my fight to end forever wars and bring our troops home has only just begun."
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Gaetz is wrong on this. Our limited presence in one part of Syria is part of our overall strategy to destroy ISIS/Al Qaeda in the Levant, where they are still active in the whole region including Al Qaeda in the Magreb.
Eyes and ears on the ground are the best real time source for intelligence gathering.
Because that worked so well in Afghanistan…
Frightening display of the real power of the globalists.
Read a true copy of the Holy Quran. gutenberg.org in the religion section has 3 translations by Imams side by side for free.
These groups could vanish and there would be more to replace them.
Not bad people, just true believers, doing their duty as instructed.
It's nothing personal, but their duty is to kill infidels (us).
The radical Muslims are the ones who prefer peace.
Muslim countries need a thug such as Assad to run them and keep the peace.
Christians and Jews were left alone under his rule as they were under Saddam.
We don't belong there, and they don't belong here.
Why don’t we just cluster bomb them out of existence?
Fool
We funded and trained ISIS in Syria. That’s why they were a threat to begin with.
900 troops are just a tripwire presence with no military significance save getting us involved in a wider war. We castigate Russia for violating the sovereignty of Ukraine yet we are in Syria without the host government’s approval. The risk far outweighs the reward.
It worked well enough in Afghanistan, except for the mistake of not closing off an escape route at Tora Bora, to cripple Al Qaeda for a long time. However some of our generals got stupid on the follow-up ops and made a mess of it - Obama people, I suspect.
Even if it passed the libtard military would disobey just like they did Trump’s order to pull out
Trump put a MOAB on ISIS, possibly Al Qaeda and the Russians at one training and supply complex. Scores ended up as human pancakes with eyeballs. Selective targeting based on good intelligence can do wonders in eliminating our enemies.
Would put a Big Hurt on the drug cartels of Mexico. Daisy Cutters are good too. Ask the North Vietnamese about that.
“ The radical Muslims are the ones who prefer peace.”
Lol I never thought of it that way. There are so few of them
Our limited presence in one part of Syria is part of our overall strategy to destroy ISIS/Al Qaeda in the Levant
There's oil in that sandbox.
Why are we involved in Syria ?
The first step in de-esclating the situation in Ukraine. Peace with Russia means we stop certain activities, No? Seems like part of a plan, that and stop the Balkin’s crap.
This article has a bearing on the other raging comment threads on FR regarding the Ukraine-Russia war.
Some erect righteous indignation that a border was crossed and a nation invaded by another, but this Syria issue explains that the double standards are running at full speed. Syria's and Turkey's governments have not asked for US "participation." So.... across a border with a military action is... Depends, doesn't it?
Additionally, Mogger's observation about "radical" Islam is a pertinent response to MadMax, the Grinning Reaper. Islam is at war and will remain at war with the world which is not Islamic. The level of intensity differs from time to time, but the Koran defines it. One cannot close a political eye to a religious precept not our won.
Additionally, that a Republican's proposal like this was defeated shows that "war powers" is a favored game of both parties, such that when FR folks suggest there is a "uni-party," they speak a fact.
"Forever" wars have been the stock and trade of the neocons, consistently for the last decades as the national debt rages out of control to pay for these wars which, one observes, have not been won. Money is at the bottom of it, with the corrupt raking it in. Politics, pure and simple.
That’s not a correct analogy.
The USA is not
1. a neighbor of Syria
2. claiming Syria is an “illegitimate country”
3. claiming that Syrians are really Americans
4. breaking a memorandum signed by the USA in 1994 to respect Syria’s borders
5. waging a war against Syrian civilians.
As per the Budapest Memorandum, signed in 1994 by Boris Yelstin, Russia would respect Ukraine’s borders.
This was ratified by Putin in 2004.
Then in 2014 he grabbed land from it - showing that a signed agreement from Russia is worthless. Ergo any negotiations with Putin are worthless - he would use “peace” as time to re-arm for the next try to vassalize Ukraine
I think you more pointedly apt than you know. ANY negotiations with Putin are indeed worthless, because all sides in this can point to sometime, somewhere and someone who said, did, promised x, y and z. And then reneged.
I think negotiations are indeed pointless. From Putin's side. From Biden's side. From Zelensky's side. From Stoltenberg's side. A partisan-less look at all sides show that all memoranda are also pointless over time, as a famous picture postcard example, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, shows. Nations renege. Political parties renege. And nations -- America and Russia included -- wage wars. That Afghanistan debacle burnt billions. Who won? Who reneged? Judging which is a "correct analogy" is not more than basic argumentation, with more than one side to speak, and often more than two.
So far in this Ukraine-Russia war, we have read that Germany's Baerbock has declared war on Russia while only yesterday a US Congressman has declared war on China, and a US admiral foresees the China-US war beginning in 2025. Ah, drumbeats aplenty.
Yes, I think with you but for different reasons, that any negotiations with Putin are worthless. Nonetheless they will come. That's what happens when nuclear war doesn't actually destroy whole nations.
Negotiations will come. They will be generally worthless. Like so many of the previous ones. Worthless. Plan accordingly.
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