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Zelenskyy vows not to retreat from Ukrainian city of Bakhmut
AP ^ | March 6, 2023 | MSTYSLAV CHERNOV

Posted on 03/06/2023 2:50:57 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy vowed Monday not to retreat from Bakhmut as Russian forces encroached on the devastated eastern city they have sought to capture for six months at the cost of thousands of lives.

Less than a week ago, an adviser to Zelenskyy said the defenders might give up on Bakhmut and fall back to nearby positions.

But Zelenskyy on Monday chaired a meeting in which top military brass “spoke in favor of continuing the defense operation and further strengthening our positions in Bakhmut.” Later in his nightly video address, the president reported that his advisers unanimously agreed to press on with the fight, “not to retreat” and to bolster Ukrainian defenses.

His top adviser, Mykhailo Podolyak, told The Associated Press that Ukrainian forces around Bakhmut have been grinding down enemy forces, reinforcing their positions and training tens of thousands of Ukrainian military personnel for a possible counteroffensive.

Intense Russian shelling targeted the city in the Donetsk region and nearby villages as Moscow waged a three-sided assault to try to finish off Bakhmut’s resistance.

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1 posted on 03/06/2023 2:50:57 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Bakhmut - the party is back on!


2 posted on 03/06/2023 2:52:50 PM PST by PGR88
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To: MinorityRepublican

In a war of attrition, Russia wins.


3 posted on 03/06/2023 2:52:54 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Russians are creating twin salients around Bakhmut. If the Ukrainians have enough men and equipment, they could surround and destroy these salients. Whether that’s better than focusing on other objectives - that’s as much a political as a military question.


4 posted on 03/06/2023 2:53:50 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why leave, Wagner is reduced to fighting with shovels and pikes.


5 posted on 03/06/2023 2:54:19 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: PGR88

I’m surprised Russia hasn’t tried some carpet bombing there.


6 posted on 03/06/2023 2:55:39 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

He will fight to the last Ukrainian citizen! He would be there along side them, but he has a pressing engagement.


7 posted on 03/06/2023 2:55:55 PM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: Zhang Fei

Prigo having a panic attack tonight on Telegram asking Putin for ammo and air support:

“PMC” Wagner “blocks Bakhmut. In order to unblock Bakhmut, it is desirable to block PMC” Wagner “. For this, the AFU created a number of groups: in Slavyansk (67th brigade), in Seversk (81st & 66th brigades)

in Chasov Yar and Konstantinovka. To securely unblock Artemovsk, the AFU need to block the PMC “Wagner”. You get a “pie”. The filling is the parts of the AFU surrounded by us, if there is a complete encirclement of Bakhmut. And the shell is the PMC “Wagner”.

Therefore, I knock on all doors and sound the alarm - with ammunition and reinforcements, and also so that we cover our flanks. If everything is coordinated,without ambitions and tantrums, they do this joint work, then we will block the AFU, but they will not block us. If not,

everyone will get f***** up. When this pie is created, I will drop a cherry on this pie and stay with my guys, rake this mess. But that doesn’t make it any easier for anyone.

Therefore, the AFU will fight for Artemivsk to the end, this is obvious,

and we must also do our work to the end. But when the whole world gathers around you, it is necessary that someone interact with you. That’s why we knock on every door. So far, my representative has been [expelled] from headquarters.”


8 posted on 03/06/2023 2:57:13 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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I’m surprised Russia hasn’t tried some carpet bombing there.

The Russian planes will get shot down due to an active missile defense in Ukraine.

9 posted on 03/06/2023 2:57:42 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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He’s busy with the decorators on the new wing at his mansion(s).


10 posted on 03/06/2023 2:58:04 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: thegagline; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; ...

Ukraine ping

thegagline: [In a war of attrition, Russia wins.]


1 for 1 attrition, sure. In this case, the Russians are dying in ratios reminiscent of the Winter War. Then, the Russians outnumbered the Finns 48 to 1, so they won anyway. They only outnumber Ukrainians 3 to 1 now. The exchange ratio is almost 5 to 1 in Bakhmut, in favor of the Ukrainians.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-03-06-23/h_265c92682c57b8228fbbf082fb3b6888


11 posted on 03/06/2023 2:59:45 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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Zelensky vows not to retreat from Ukrainian city of Bakhmut

Stupid Zelensky. Didn't he get the talking point that Bakhmut is strategically unimportant?

12 posted on 03/06/2023 3:01:42 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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If the Ukrainians have enough men and equipment, they could surround and destroy these salients.

This is the best possibility for Ukraine victory - and survival. We will know within two weeks if they can do it. Do they have enough men and ammunition left? Right now, the "horrible truth" is that we cannot tell from the information available to us. All the propaganda cancels out to zero information.

No amount of propaganda from any side of this war will be able to disguise the outcome of the next phase. The fog of propaganda is still too thick for me to guess what that outcome will be.

13 posted on 03/06/2023 3:02:24 PM PST by flamberge (We don't get the government we vote for. We get the government we will tolerate.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Uncle Adolf said the same thing about Stalingrad - all the way up until the day von Paulus surrendered.

Zelinsky has one huge advantage over WWII Germany, though - Nuland has promised him the entire NATO arsenal as long as he stays the course. But if he dares to give up the act prematurely, she will have him killed long before Putin ever gets to him.

14 posted on 03/06/2023 3:03:11 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Zhang Fei

That’s a flat out lie.

They need to be suing for peace, not sacrificing more people.


15 posted on 03/06/2023 3:05:00 PM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: MinorityRepublican

It will be Mariupol all over again. Many will die needlessly.


16 posted on 03/06/2023 3:05:26 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I didn’t know he was there.


17 posted on 03/06/2023 3:06:52 PM PST by Equine1952
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Zelensky is not in Bakmut, he doesn’t get his hands dirty. Throw bodies at the Russians, for the almighty Dollar. He is a low low man.


18 posted on 03/06/2023 3:07:57 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("People who didn't take take the Jab have -0- regrets, those who did may be SADS.)
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

marcusmaximus: [Prigo having a panic attack tonight on Telegram asking Putin for ammo and air support:]


A panic attack is a psychosomatic in nature - the mind creating problems that don’t exist in the real world. The threat of being enveloped, especially when he’s exhausted his equipment and ammo in one last throw of the dice - that’s real enough. It’s why the Ukrainians halted and avoided pushing further during the offensive that cleared the area around Kharkov - they weren’t confident that, even if they managed to take that territory, they could supply, fortify and man it to the levels necessary to avoid losing it again to the Russians.


19 posted on 03/06/2023 3:08:31 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Once Bakhmut falls, the new and improved narrative:

Bakhmut Doesn’t Matter. Moscow is doomed!

20 posted on 03/06/2023 3:09:04 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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