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Jeffery Sachs: Ukrainian loss number don't lie
YouTube ^ | March 3, 2023 | Jeffery Sachs

Posted on 03/04/2023 9:54:11 AM PST by Kazan

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To: JoSixChip

Funny how you suck in Russian propaganda like a useful idiot.


21 posted on 03/04/2023 10:37:55 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan Conservative: Economic Freedom, Peace through Strength, American Values- De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Jeff Chandler
1.) Russia thought they could achieve their objectives on the cheap.

More likely Russia thought that calmer heads would prevail after Biden basically assured them that we wouldn't do anything if it was a “minor incursion”. They made the incorrect assumption that the “invasion” would prompt a negotiation which gave them an upper hand and that our puppet Zelinsky would roll over. Instead, all this obfuscating was used by deep state Neocons to lure Putin into an ill-conceived “trap” that they thought would end his regime. Now everyone has egg on their face and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians have been slaughtered as a result.

The results are that the sanctions have been a complete failure. Putin is as strong as ever. Their economy has been converted to a war time economy. The US dollar is losing its place as the trading currency for energy. China has been emboldened and will likely take Taiwan before Biden leaves office. Vast sums of money have been wasted with a large percentage laundered back into the hands of the Democrats and deep state Republicans none of whom could care less that there is buckets of blood on the money and that our credibility is now in the toilet.

No good will ever come from any of this. The primary residual we have on the forum is a cadre of fools that have completely bought into the massive amount of propaganda and are cheering on the continuing blood fest and believe that the Biden administration is capable of "winning" anything.

22 posted on 03/04/2023 10:40:30 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: rbmillerjr

—> The goal was to storm the airport and airlift in troops and tanks to to Kiev.

It must be nice to have a copy of the Russian battle plans to have insight like that.


23 posted on 03/04/2023 10:40:47 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: rbmillerjr
Funny how you suck in Russian propaganda like a useful idiot.

Says the moron that believes and agrees 100% with the biden administration and msm. LOL
24 posted on 03/04/2023 10:41:28 AM PST by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: JoSixChip

You take after Slo-Joe.

There are a multitude of independent military observers to point out that Russia has failed and will never take Ukraine. If the US would send longer range weapons, they’d likely take Crimea back.


25 posted on 03/04/2023 10:43:27 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan Conservative: Economic Freedom, Peace through Strength, American Values- De Oppresso Liber)
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To: aynrandfreak

And so were the Germans and we all know how that turned out!


26 posted on 03/04/2023 10:43:31 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: rbmillerjr

“Funny how you suck in Russian propaganda like a useful idiot.”

One thing the US has in abundance is toothless, warmongering, blowhard boomers.

Like you.


27 posted on 03/04/2023 10:45:32 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: fireman15

bttp


28 posted on 03/04/2023 10:47:10 AM PST by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Chunga85

“the US has in abundance is toothless, warmongering, blowhard boomers”

LOL, says the young buck that wouldn’t fight if they invaded Va Beach. You Liberaltarians take the cake for puzzy Appeasers.

Seriously, you are so dense that you accuse us of being warmongers, while the only warmonger is Putin’s Russia.


29 posted on 03/04/2023 10:50:02 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan Conservative: Economic Freedom, Peace through Strength, American Values- De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Kazan

Completely unnecessary war, but no... let the neocon war drums beat.


30 posted on 03/04/2023 10:52:50 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: JoSixChip

I read Ukrainian propaganda on several sites and some of it is so ridiculous you know it’s BS. All I know is we should not be involved in the mess. Russia’s military budget in 2019 was less than 100 billion ours is about 9 times that... The only threat they pose to NATO & the USA is with Nukes which they will not use unless cornered... So is Nato trying to corner them??? WTF are we doing financing this blood bath


31 posted on 03/04/2023 10:56:25 AM PST by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: rbmillerjr

“Seriously, you are so dense that you accuse us of being warmongers, while the only warmonger is Putin’s Russia.”

Ok, boomer. The problem with your statements are they are false. Nobody is invading VA Beach.

The US staged a coup and armed Ukraine on Russia’s border and now US backed former state of Ukraine is getting it’s butt kicked. Get used to it.

You toothless, warmongering boomers live out your lives in old black and white movies slouched over on your sofas, hissing and snarling.


32 posted on 03/04/2023 11:02:36 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Kazan

Still a ways to go since we are fighting this to the last Ukrainian. Many patriotic freepers have said that they will not let Russia invade Ukraine without letting Ukrainians get decimated or something stupid like that


33 posted on 03/04/2023 11:03:12 AM PST by Nashcash
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To: Kazan

I doubt we will ever know the truth.


34 posted on 03/04/2023 11:03:34 AM PST by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: fireman15

Been lurking reading all the differing views of what’s really happening over there. This post is the most sensible and well written of them all. Thanks.


35 posted on 03/04/2023 11:07:45 AM PST by HalfIrish
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To: Reagan80
as cited by CNN

As cited by CNN. Trust but verify. I don't trust CNN to convey the exact numbers or any other kind of number or even any kind of news.

Can any other source or intermediary verify the numbers?
36 posted on 03/04/2023 11:12:14 AM PST by adorno
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To: Kazan
Hard to believe these two headlines are on the same front page.


37 posted on 03/04/2023 11:15:32 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Kazan; All
Sachs can not show where CNN reported this, because it was not CNN.

It goes back to Russian telegram channels falsely attributing a story to CNN.

Sachs is using Chomsky's trick of being loose with sources.

38 posted on 03/04/2023 11:19:23 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: Chunga85

“The US staged a coup and armed Ukraine on Russia’s border “

That is complete BS that your tiny little brained has heard and believed from Russian propaganda. Putin even preemptively talked about taking Ukraine back due to Ukraine not really existing, except as a part of Greater Russia.

Russia got their azzes handed to them, deal with it, their military sucks.

Are you going through a Liberaltarian gender confusion, you little puzzy Appeaser. What is your pronoun?


39 posted on 03/04/2023 11:22:13 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan Conservative: Economic Freedom, Peace through Strength, American Values- De Oppresso Liber)
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To: fireman15

Your Post #22 - thank you for injecting some sense.


40 posted on 03/04/2023 11:25:02 AM PST by Allegra
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