Posted on 02/25/2023 9:14:00 AM PST by frithguild
The inherently disharmonious nation-state currently assigned the toponym “Ukraine” on maps of Europe is incontrovertibly an artificial construction of relatively recent origin. The socio-political and cultural facts underlying this reality were ably exploited by the Germans in the Second World War when the Nazis successfully recruited large numbers of its western inhabitants (primarily from Galicia) to join them in a war of annihilation against the Poles, the Jews, and the more numerous and prosperous “Muscovites” who inhabited the agriculturally fertile and substantially industrialized regions of historical Novorossiya.
This was the polity within the geographic region known as the Ukraine that, beginning as early as the immediate aftermath of the war, was systematically cultivated by the Anglo-American western hegemon as a disruptive force to undermine Soviet power ...
And in the aftermath of the fall of the Soviet Union which occasioned the rise of the global American empire, this was the polity that was methodically groomed to eventually become a disposable proxy for imperial designs which explicitly aspired to dismember Russia and despoil its nearly limitless natural resource treasures.
Any set of arguments aiming to dispute this interpretation of events is demonstrably erroneous, logically fallacious, and historically revisionist – ...
My point for now is that Moeini’s characterization of what happened since 2014 as Ukraine exercising its own agency to effect a geopolitical gambit against Russia is a tortured misrepresentation of the facts.
The reality is that the ruling junta in Ukraine – raised to its principality by imperial intrigues – was cunningly seduced into believing it was uniquely capable of becoming the tip of the empire’s spear to slay, once and for all, the subhuman “Muscovites” who had long-dominated the left bank of the Dnieper River, Crimea, and the regions bordering the Black Sea. ***
(Excerpt) Read more at ronpaulinstitute.org ...
you can draw a line through Zhitomir and Vinnista and everything to the right if that is basically Russian. To the left you have Volhynia, Galicia, Bucovina and Transcarpathia, which all at certain times were a part of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, Austria Hungary and Romania. The politics of these areas are far different than the rest. That they have no love for Russia is clear (perhaps Transcarpathia less so than the others). The coup the US engineered was certain to put people from these areas in charge.
“Ukraine” ...an artificial construction of relatively recent origin.
So what? Lots of nations are.
Ukraine as Kievan Rus existed long before Russia.
Twenty-three years after Britain recognized American independence they tried to revoke it with much the same reasoning.
Failing to factor in its history in our discussions of the war is like leaving out the Armistice and Alsace–Lorraine from our discussions of WWII.
The 'rule' is always that nations should not invade one another.
At the same time, it is not America’s job to enforce that rule everywhere in the world.
Thank goodness we live in a country that holds that rule sacred.
Please to remember that Communist Russia genocided 11 million Ukrainians. The commies at the University of Chicago school of sociology claimed that it was land reform and as such was a most wonderful event. Peoples who were friends of Russia were moved into what is now modern day Ukraine.
The US War of Independence was not a revolution. It was a war to create an Autonomous American Republic. The Euromaiden Revolution was an unconstitutional Revolutionary overthrow of Ukraine’s Republic, disenfranchising large parts of Easter and Southern parts of the country.
Build the wall.
Lol.
RonPaulists
LMMFAO
The new Russian Neo-Cons.
Backwards label.
Neo-Cons are in favor of U.S. martial adventures.
Genius, read my post again.
No...true Neo-Cons are only against US military involvement. They support authoritarian war adventures to take land.
Liberaltarian RonPaulists are the epitome of Neo-Cons. Their support is clear, they are pro Russia and China and anti American.
You really should read the full paper. I lays bare the conceit that underlies the thinking that starting this war was a “good idea” and that there should be no off ramp. For example, I quote:
I initially believed NATO military leaders must have had a sober view, far in advance, that their half-million-strong, well-armed, trained-to-NATO-standards Ukrainian proxy army had almost no chance of prevailing on the field of battle against Russia.
But watching drone video of Ukrainian fortifications has convinced me the US military brain trust effectively disdained the Russian military, and its commanders, in the course of their eight-year-long preparation of the eastern Ukrainian battlefield.
Their vanity persuaded them the Russians would mindlessly smash themselves to pieces against an entrenched well-armed force.
Indeed, they were so confident of the genius of their plan that they persuasively encouraged many hundreds of now-killed or captured NATO veterans to “share in the glory” of humiliating the Russians and bringing down the Putin regime once and for all.
They deluded themselves into believing the Russians lacked strategic and logistical acumen, a sufficiently well-trained force, and – arguably the biggest miscalculation of all – sufficient stockpiles of ammo to conduct a protracted high-intensity conflict.
In short, I have come to believe US/NATO commanders actually persuaded themselves that this ‘Mother of All Proxy Armies’ had an excellent chance to soundly whip the Russians in a battle situated in their own back yard
In other words, they disregarded centuries of European history that they somehow convinced themselves had no relevance to their 21st century aspirations to defeat Russia militarily and take a great spoil of its resources
Not really. The Rurids essentially ceased their existence upon the arrival of the Mongols, except in Novgorod, which subjected itself to suzeranty and payment of tribute.
I remember on TV Biden threatening Lindsay Graham, probably about the laptop, and Graham looked scared... Biden has something on Lindsay. So scaredy-cat Lindsay is all for the Biden war. He acts tough but is a coward.
These guys are all actors. Biden is probably the biggest next to Obama. Biden just can’t remember his lines sometimes, or he likes purposely screwing up to remind himself that he is still the BOSS – he is still top banana despite graduating at the bottom of his class. And to remind himself they are the losers because they can’t get rid of him. It’s just some perverted trip for him.
I have never put Russian atrocities out of the calculus as it must be considered in anticipating how the Galicians and Volhynians have and will behave. The neocon War Vampires understand this well and have used it to incite this war out of nothing. All that is what it is.
However, what I am trying to focus attention upon is the utter incompetence of the “west” in assessing the probability the present course will succede. It never had a chance.
And for making this point today I will be called a Rusofile or some other more salacious epithet.
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