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1 posted on 02/25/2023 1:04:06 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

Interview with Russian sociologist Grigory Yudin, who predicted before the war began that the invasion would in fact occur. Yandex translation:

https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/ru-en.en.3e75cfc2-63f9c65a-5f3d439d-74722d776562/https/meduza.io/feature/2023/02/24/imperskaya-formula-prinyata-ofitsialno-rossiya-nigde-ne-zakanchivaetsya

His take appears similar to mine - that Putin is basically the 21st century face of Sargon all the way through Russia’s the Greats - a conqueror out for immortality through territorial gain. He’ll stop, but only to recharge, when his armies are exhausted, materially or spiritually, and can advance no further.


2 posted on 02/25/2023 1:06:06 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Zhang Fei
Borders in Europe appear in 1648, when the Westphalian system was formed, which later gradually ends with empires.

This BS is repeated often. Borders and nation states existed in Europe well before the Treaty of Westphalia. Augustus Ceasar declared the Rhine River as the border between the Roman Empire and Germania around the time of Christ.

3 posted on 02/25/2023 1:15:55 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Zhang Fei

Given that Poland and Baltic states are discussing the split of Russia and having its population, why should Russian borders end somewhere?
This approach was tried between 1991-2022 and proved to be a failure.


4 posted on 02/25/2023 1:20:40 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Zhang Fei

Ukraine was the kickback capital of the world before Putin invaded, Didn’t he realize he was giving the West an excuse for corrupt politicians to launder enormous sums of loot?


5 posted on 02/25/2023 1:22:08 AM PST by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second..)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman; NorseViking; Nateman
Yudin is a Russian sociologist, BA, MA, PhD, discussing Putin and Russia from a Russian point of view, in Russian.
Is it presumptuous to think, that he actually knows and understand more about his country than most non-Russians?
12 posted on 02/25/2023 2:15:46 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0)
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To: Zhang Fei

The Russia fans here can’t accept the truth of what the article states.


17 posted on 02/25/2023 3:26:10 AM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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Glimpse into the future PING!


24 posted on 02/25/2023 5:13:03 AM PST by Candor7 ( ( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!))
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To: Zhang Fei
https://sonar21.com/americas-delusional-military-fantasy/

One of the lessons that should be learned from the war in Ukraine on the anniversary of the start of Russia’s Special Military Operation is that the United States has the most expensive military in the world but is totally unprepared to fight a first world power. During the last year we have learned that javelins, stingers and HIMARS are not game changers for Ukraine. The war in Ukraine has exposed the weakness of the U.S. and European military industrial base. NATO has lost its ability to produce essential ammunition required to sustain Ukraine’s needs in the battle and lacks stockpiles of tanks and armored vehicles that Ukraine begs for on a daily basis. The U.S. is no longer the industrial behemoth that churned out tanks, planes, aircraft carriers, destroyers and bombs in the Second World War.

Russia, for its part, continues to steadily advance along the entire 1000 mile front (not as fast as a bunch of arm chair generals want) and is inflicting massive casualties on the Ukrainian forces. At no point since February 2022 has Ukraine been able to mount a counter attack against a numerically equal Russian force. Ukraine’s much ballyhooed offensive from last August/September was against an outnumbered group of military police and Russia managed to effect a professional tactical retreat.

The real game changer is Russia’s industrial base. Russia has the natural resources, the factories and the skilled workers to produce the weapons, vehicles, tanks and planes it needs to sustain its forces in the field. The Biden Administration, the media and the pundits in America fail to grasp this reality. Instead they continue to repeat the lie that Russia’s economy is in tatters and drowning under the weight of U.S. sanctions.

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t is true that U.S. forces took control in 2003 of sizeable chunks of Iraq and occupied Baghdad. But the Iraqi Army lacked air power and effective artillery. Yee haw!! America beat up the kid in a wheel chair. Let us not forget that the United States’ policies in Iraq also spawned a deadly insurgency and led to the birth of ISIS, which carried out epic terrorist attacks in Europe, the Middle East and America. Iraq displayed the impotence of U.S. military power to create a stable political order.

I really question the intelligence of a person who touts the “U.S. rolling over the Taliban and Al Qaeda in 2001 – 2002” and blithely ignores the U.S. ignominious defeat in Afghanistan in August 2021. The Taliban that we supposedly vanquished took back Kabul and forced the United States into a panicked withdrawal. Oh yeah. The U.S. abandoned thousands of Afghans who we had promised previously to protect.

And then there is the ghost of Vietnam. “We won every major engagement against the Vietnamese communists.” So what! Killing Viet Cong in the jungles and mountains did not prevent the North Vietnamese from sweeping down and vanquishing the South Vietnamese government. Here again, U.S. military power was impotent to create a political outcome that served U.S. national interests.

Most Americans indulge the fantasy that if we just use more military force (i.e., more cowbell). This insanity continues to posses the political class controlling Washington and they show no sign of relenting in their quest to destroy Vladimir Putin and magically transform Russia into a lackey of the West. That is what is at stake in Russia’s war in Ukraine and the majority of the Russian people, not just the political and military leaders, understand this threat.

We are witnessing the end of the era when the strength of the U.S. economy and its control of the world economy via the petro dollar enabled Washington to pursue its reckless, multiple overseas military expeditions.

53 posted on 02/25/2023 8:28:44 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Zhang Fei

Empire doesn’t recognize any borders.

Chins is still using Mao’s 100 year plan and look at what they have gained.

Stalling an economy is the best tool to prevent such actions.


55 posted on 02/25/2023 8:43:47 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: Zhang Fei

The ones advocating no sovereign borders are the globalists.


56 posted on 02/25/2023 8:51:42 AM PST by unlearner (RIP America. July 4, 1776 - December 13, 2022. )
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"Putin and Xi ultimately share the same goal as Klaus Schwab and the globalists -- the destruction of the Western nation-state, which has been the basic organizing unit of the functioning world since the Peace of Westphalia four centuries back."

59 posted on 02/25/2023 10:20:53 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Your completely full of crap. Putin has had the opportunity for 30 years, nothing.


61 posted on 02/25/2023 10:50:22 AM PST by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: Zhang Fei

This site has become home for the blind norms.

The reality is that world is actually much different that wha we were taught from our birth to now.


72 posted on 02/26/2023 8:06:44 AM PST by TennTuxedo
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