Posted on 02/25/2023 1:04:06 AM PST by Zhang Fei
— You have repeatedly said that, in your opinion, Putin will not stop in Ukraine. What exactly do you have in mind? Moldova, the Baltic States, or a self-destructive war with the United States?
— In principle, such a worldview has no boundaries. This formula has been adopted almost officially: Russia doesn't end anywhere. This is the standard definition of an empire, because an empire doesn't recognize any borders.
Borders in Europe appear in 1648, when the Westphalian system was formed, which later gradually ends with empires. There is an idea that there are borders between countries: "Here we are, and here you are." The Empire does not recognize this idea: "We are where we managed to reach. And you — where we just didn't have time to go. When we get there, you won't be there, we'll be there."
This logic, in principle, does not accept any borders, and it is no coincidence that we do not hear from Russian officials any recognition of the legitimacy of at least someone else's borders. The maximum that we can hear [about where the borders are] is a situational feeling that there is a certain West, and this is probably something alien to us. Not that it's not ours at all, but there is already a zone that will be very difficult to get there. The West is understood, of course, in the [ideological] sense that existed in the Soviet Union.
I remind everyone about [Putin's ultimatum to the United States and NATO] in December 2021 — it is extremely serious, it says in plain text that all of Eastern Europe is Vladimir Putin's sphere of influence. How it will be formalized, with the loss of formal sovereignty or not-what difference does it make? In addition, this zone undoubtedly includes East Germany-simply
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Your completely full of crap. Putin has had the opportunity for 30 years, nothing.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova: Latvia has lost its sovereignty because of NATO and Washington"Latvia lost its economic, military and humanitarian sovereignty when it agreed to deploy US and NATO troops on its territory, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.
"If the Latvian Foreign Ministry appreciates the meaning of freedom, it would not encourage the deployment of foreign military units on its territory," Zakharova was quoted as saying by the RIA Novosti news agency.
Everything I cited is historical fact. What color is the sky in your world?
That is why guys like you are ending reinforcing highways with their bones in Siberia, which is well deserved, but you cry about Russian barbarian at the same time.
—> However, it definitely is in the compelling interest of both the United States and of European countries to treat russia like nuclear waste.
Disagree
—> America has an interest in saving a democratic country
Ukraine isn’t a democracy and isn’t our job to save them
We aren’t even saving Marxist Canada.
—> (2) and America has an interest in weakening a hostile enemy, especially since it’s being done with zero American troops killed
Russia isn’t hostile or a threat to us.
-> (3) other countries are watching, so if Russia wins, it will only encourage other menacing aggressors around the World, creating more problems for America
If something affects us or an interest of ours, we can act.
Until then, Europe should handle it.
Clown, go look at 1931 maps and earlier. Russia has never looked beyond those territories. Go get back on your neocon fantastie bus. Peace sells, just not yours, cause no one is buying. Go fight in the Eukrainian front line with all you neocon friends, you are winning of course.
—> LOL you’re not very smart
Dude, you live in Marxist Canada…
“NATO is not intended to protect Europe from anyone. It’s designed to establish a permanent U.S. military occupation of Europe.”
And yet there are less U.S. troops in Europe now than there was 30 years ago.
Because Europe still feared Germany and didn’t have the desire to accept the responsibility for that fear. Why do it when Uncle Sucker was ready to do it?
This site has become home for the blind norms.
The reality is that world is actually much different that wha we were taught from our birth to now.
I don’t think Poland can do that for a while.
But, once they get fully loaded up, and Russia badly depleted (current trend lines), about the only way Russia could get far in Poland would be to literally drown the Poles in Russian blood.
...Leaving nukes out of the picture, of course.
No, and no.
And, it's not even all about Russia (tho' the lean toward Russia increases if one considers Moscow part of Europe.) We KNOW from history what happens with Europe when well armed and left to its own devices. Post WW2 you can add in nukes, at any point had the US packed up and gone home. And if you don't recognize the divisions still in Europe, hidden to the ignorant by the thin veneer of the EU, and relative peace held together not just by trade, but by the glues of NATO and US influence, well... I can't help you. I don't know how to cure blindness.
Waste? Well, since the demise of the USSR, the Euro's haven't really contributed their full / designed share to NATO. But, their contribution is still helpful. And, together with a few other allies, the Western bloc is ~80% of the world's GDP. Europe's contribution there is larger than ours. Getting that block to move together is often difficult. Getting it to move together quickly can be VERY difficult. But, make no mistake, it is enormously economically beneficial (basically to all), and it is the most powerful human force on the planet.
When it comes to NATO, obviously some things need to be addressed. One is to address funding: The 2% of GDP requirement needs to be an absolute minimum requirement for Membership. So long as Russia is a threat, it likely needs to be 3%.
“Therefore any opportunity to join a military alliance with the civilized West was snapped up as soon as it was offered.”
It wasn’t even offered. They applied for it. Only then was it debated, considered and put to existing members for approval.
NATO is akin to the US’s original Minutemen or a neighborhood watch. It is a self-defense organization created in response to mutual sefl defense against belligerants.
Russia invaded Chechnya
Russia invaded Georgia
Russia invaded Crimea
Russia invaded Donetsk
Russia invaded Ukraine
All Putin’s invasions were for territorial conquest.
This is why NATO exists -to protect nations against Russian invasion.
—> We KNOW from history what happens with Europe when well armed and left to its own devices. Post WW2 you can add in nukes, at any point had the US packed up and gone home. And if you don’t recognize the divisions still in Europe, hidden to the ignorant by the thin veneer of the EU, and relative peace held together not just by trade, but by the glues of NATO and US influence, well... I can’t help you. I don’t know how to cure blindness.
Yes we know the failure of Europe to resolve longstanding/sectarian issues.
The EU, not a democratic institution, has become a tool of the WEF to enslave the continent. It is corrupt.
The Un was envisioned as a forum to resolve these issues and prevent war. It is corrupt.
Through paying for the EU defense in perpetuity, we are enabling the enslavement of the citizens.
We have fostered this EU welfare state on the backs of American dollars and American lives.
If they cannot handle regional issues by now, they are simply perpetual wards of our state.
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